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1 00:00:37 (SOFT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING)
2 00:00:59 HUGH DOWNS:Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
3 00:01:01 were the most famoustelevangelist couple in America,
4 00:01:04 and, by far, the most prosperous.
5 00:01:06 AL DALE: Ken and Barbieof televangelism.
6 00:01:08 And they seemed honest.
7 00:01:10 REPORTER 1: They brought encouragementand hope to lots of people.
8 00:01:13 GERALDO RIVERA: He's the president
9 00:01:14 of a multi-million dollarreligious organization
10 00:01:15 called the Praise The Lord Club.
11 00:01:17 REPORTER 2: PTL alsooperates Heritage Village
12 00:01:19 in Fort Mill, South Carolina.
13 00:01:21 REPORTER 3: ...Christian Disney World
14 00:01:22 where PTL memberscan vacation with inspiration.
15 00:01:25 They are among the best-known figures
16 00:01:27 in the world of television evangelism.
17 00:01:29 But tonight they are out of business.
18 00:01:31 ...following the scandal that led
19 00:01:32 to founder Jim Bakker'sresignation last week.
20 00:01:34 There's debate abouthow much the Bakker scandal will hurt
21 00:01:37 all the television ministriesand quiet concern...
22 00:01:39 Modern warfare among the TV preachers.
23 00:01:41 In this electronic age,the stakes are high
24 00:01:43 -with millions of followers...-...and recriminations.
25 00:01:45 And caught up in the fighting
26 00:01:46 are their fellow evangelistsJimmy Swaggart,
27 00:01:47 Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell.
28 00:01:49 Now, about what some people around here
29 00:01:50 are calling "pearly-gate."
30 00:01:52 Pearly-gate is the storyof Jim and Tammy Bakker.
31 00:01:55 It's remarkably like Watergate,
32 00:01:56 which tainted the name "politician,"
33 00:02:00 and such an episode is boundto taint the name "preacher."
34 00:02:05 REPORTER 4: The Bakkerscouldn't even get out of their car.
35 00:02:07 There were so many peoplewaiting to see them
36 00:02:09 after three months of seclusion.
37 00:02:10 REPORTER 5: ...busloads of tourists,
38 00:02:11 hoping to get a glimpseof the elusive evangelists,
39 00:02:14 but they had no better luckthan the waiting newspeople.
40 00:02:20 WOMAN: Okay, I'm gonna startby taking some of this off.
41 00:02:24 TAMMY: Okay.
42 00:02:25 WOMAN: Gonna take your foundation off.
43 00:02:27 TAMMY: M'kay.
44 00:02:28 WOMAN: And then we'll start fresh.
45 00:02:31 Can you take your lips off?
46 00:02:39 -Okay.-Do you want a little remover?
47 00:02:41 Oh, no. That's it.
48 00:02:44 That'll be all.They're permanently lined.
49 00:02:47 WOMAN: Oh.
50 00:02:48 And my eyes are permanently lined
51 00:02:50 and my eyebrows are permanently on,
52 00:02:51 so there's not a whole lotyou can do. (CHUCKLES)
53 00:02:54 WOMAN: My goodness,
54 00:02:56 -I... I didn't know.-Mm.
55 00:02:58 Have you never done pictureswithout those eyelashes?
56 00:03:00 Nope, and I never will
57 00:03:01 because that's my trademark.
58 00:03:02 And, you know, if I take that away,then it's not me,
59 00:03:06 and no one's gonna wanna lookat me without my trademark.
60 00:03:08 So, I hold onto that.
61 00:03:09 Even if we softened 'em up and kept...
62 00:03:11 No. No, you can do anything you want,
63 00:03:14 but my eyelashes stayright where they are.
64 00:03:17 WOMAN: That's really you.
65 00:03:18 TAMMY: Mm.
66 00:03:20 Oh, yeah, this is who I am.(CHUCKLES)
67 00:03:22 (CAMERA CLICKING)
68 00:03:38 PREACHER: I didn't knowwhat the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be
69 00:03:41 because the devil is all around us!
70 00:03:43 -(PIANO PLAYING)-Oh, yes, he is!
71 00:03:44 And it's up to you to resisthis temptations. Hallelujah!
72 00:03:47 (CONGREGATION EXCLAIMING)
73 00:03:48 If you're not saved by Jesus,
74 00:03:50 you open yourself up to demons
75 00:03:52 and the devil will make a home in you!
76 00:03:56 WOMAN: Glory to God!
77 00:03:57 When God spoke peace to my heart,
78 00:03:58 I didn't know how to say gloryor hallelujah,
79 00:04:01 but I got saved!
80 00:04:03 I leapt upon that altar.
81 00:04:05 Jesus told me He loved me,
82 00:04:07 and He will love you.
83 00:04:09 (WOMAN EXCLAIMING)
84 00:04:10 He speaks through her.Say, "Hallelujah!"
85 00:04:13 CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
86 00:04:15 PREACHER: She is withthe Holy Spirit right now!
87 00:04:18 Feel the spirit! Say, "Glory.
88 00:04:21 "Glory to God."
89 00:04:22 CONGREGATION: Glory to God!
90 00:04:23 PREACHER: You too, sister!Feel the spirit.
91 00:04:26 Raise your hands up, folks.
92 00:04:30 LITTLE TAMMY: I was here.
93 00:04:32 Here the whole time.
94 00:04:33 Little girls go to Hell for lying.
95 00:04:36 Honest and true.
96 00:04:37 I wanna be saved.
97 00:04:40 If you let me come in with you,
98 00:04:42 God'd love me like He's supposed to.
99 00:04:44 There's reasonsyou can't be seen in church, Tam.
100 00:04:46 Grown-up reasons.
101 00:04:48 Is it because everyone thinksyou're a harlot?
102 00:04:52 And I come from a time
103 00:04:53 before Fred made yourespectable and stuff.
104 00:04:57 Only reason they let me back
105 00:04:58 is 'cause nobody but mecan play the piano.
106 00:05:01 But you remind them I was divorced.
107 00:05:04 They see you,
108 00:05:06 all of us is going to be banished.
109 00:05:09 The souls of all your brothers and sisters
110 00:05:11 burning in Hell because you don't listen
111 00:05:13 and you can't sit still.
112 00:05:18 (SNIFFLING)
113 00:05:22 Stop performing.
114 00:05:28 (IN PUPPET VOICE)You're going to Hell, Tammy.
115 00:05:30 You don't belong here.You don't belong anywhere.
116 00:05:33 You're ugly.
117 00:05:35 You've got a demon inside you.
118 00:05:38 (IN NORMAL VOICE)But I don't wanna go to Hell.
119 00:05:41 (IN PUPPET VOICE)If they loved you,
120 00:05:43 they wouldn't leave you here.
121 00:05:45 (IN NORMAL VOICE)They love me.
122 00:05:46 (IN PUPPET VOICE)They love you not.
123 00:05:52 (IN NORMAL VOICE)Jesus, come into my heart
124 00:05:55 and forgive me my sins.
125 00:05:58 I don't know what this iseverybody's getting,
126 00:06:01 but if it's real,
127 00:06:03 then, please, Jesus, give that to me.
128 00:06:09 -(PIANO PLAYING)-PREACHER: Amen!
129 00:06:11 Be strong in the Lordand His mighty power.
130 00:06:14 Put on the armor of God
131 00:06:15 so that you can take your stand
132 00:06:16 against the devil's schemes.
133 00:06:18 For our struggle isn'tagainst flesh and blood,
134 00:06:21 but against the powersof this dark world!
135 00:06:24 Casting down imaginations
136 00:06:26 on every high thing that exalts itself.
137 00:06:30 -Do you feel love?-CONGREGATION: Yes.
138 00:06:32 PREACHER: You feel it, sister!I know you feel it!
139 00:06:35 You too, brother?
140 00:06:37 If you feel the love,
141 00:06:38 -say, "Hallelujah!"-CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
142 00:06:40 PREACHER: Say, "Glory to God!"CONGREGATION: Glory to God!
143 00:06:43 PREACHER: Accept the blood!
144 00:06:44 Feel love forever!
145 00:06:46 CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
146 00:06:47 WOMAN: Praise the Lord!
147 00:06:49 Are you ready to accept the love?
148 00:06:51 Yes.
149 00:06:52 (CONGREGATION CLAMORING)
150 00:07:02 (BREATHING HEAVILY)
151 00:07:05 (SPEAKING IN TONGUES)
152 00:07:07 Tammy Faye!
153 00:07:11 I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
154 00:07:14 (CONTINUES SPEAKING IN TONGUES)
155 00:07:16 No, Tammy!
156 00:07:18 Tammy, get up.
157 00:07:20 He is with us!
158 00:07:22 She's peeing herself! Praise God!
159 00:07:25 Yes!
160 00:07:26 -Tammy, I said get up.-WOMAN: Shush now.
161 00:07:28 This baby is a miracle.Don't you take her from us.
162 00:07:32 (CONTINUESSPEAKING IN TONGUES)
163 00:07:37 MAN: Mr. Bakker?
164 00:07:39 JIM: Yes, sir?
165 00:07:40 (JIM CLEARS THROAT)
166 00:07:42 Thank you.
167 00:07:47 (JIM BREATHES DEEPLY)
168 00:07:50 (JIM CLEARS THROAT)
169 00:07:51 Um, sorry.
170 00:07:56 I would like to start with a verse.
171 00:07:58 "Beloved, I wish above all thingsthat thou mayest prosper
172 00:08:03 "and be in health,even as thy soul prospereth."
173 00:08:07 That is John 3, verse 2,
174 00:08:09 and it's written right herein the good book.
175 00:08:12 He gave me this verse last night.
176 00:08:14 God, He came right downand He whispered it in my ear.
177 00:08:17 He said, "Jim Bakker,
178 00:08:19 "I intend for you to thrive,
179 00:08:22 "to live, and to love
180 00:08:25 "in this life."
181 00:08:27 He said it to me.
182 00:08:28 But us Christians,
183 00:08:30 we've been taughtthat we're supposed to
184 00:08:33 expect failure.
185 00:08:36 (JIM CHUCKLES)
186 00:08:37 -(SIGHS)-When Jesus calls you home,
187 00:08:39 you think you're going to get a bonus
188 00:08:40 if you make yourself miserable?
189 00:08:43 (CHUCKLES)
190 00:08:44 You think if you deny yourselfindoor plumbing,
191 00:08:46 or if you don't have shoes
192 00:08:47 -on your feet...-(BOOK CLATTERS)
193 00:08:50 (SOFTLY) I'm... I'm sorry.
194 00:08:55 Go ahead.
195 00:08:59 You know, Heaven,
196 00:09:01 Heaven is heaven, that is for sure.
197 00:09:03 But God's hope for us
198 00:09:06 is that we live and we thriveand we love here
199 00:09:10 in the promised land.
200 00:09:11 Here and now.
201 00:09:12 Here and now,and in this very, very moment.
202 00:09:16 (EXHALES HEAVILY) Hallelujah!
203 00:09:18 God does not want us to be poor!
204 00:09:20 (LAUGHS) Oh, no!
205 00:09:22 He will gift the faithfulwith eternal life,
206 00:09:26 eternal love, and eternal wealth!
207 00:09:29 Hallelujah! Praise God!Praise Him!
208 00:09:34 (EXHALES DEEPLY)
209 00:09:35 Be right to remember,
210 00:09:37 "Blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker.
211 00:09:40 Doesn't sound very blessed to me.
212 00:09:42 (LAUGHING)
213 00:09:45 You two are here to learn the waysof the Lord through scripture, yeah?
214 00:09:49 Yes, sir.
215 00:09:50 And to spread the word of God.
216 00:09:51 Oh, yeah. You know,
217 00:09:52 I'm gonna sing the word in every tent,in every church.
218 00:09:54 You know, God told me thatthat's what He wants for me.
219 00:09:59 With makeup on your face?
220 00:10:02 -MAN: (SOFTLY) Ahem. Jezebel.-(WOMAN LAUGHS)
221 00:10:05 (TAMMY CHUCKLING)
222 00:10:10 "I do my best to maintain always
223 00:10:12 "a blameless conscience,
224 00:10:13 "both before God and before men."
225 00:10:17 "A man who keeps company with harlots
226 00:10:20 "wastes his wealth."
227 00:10:22 Proverbs 29:3.
228 00:10:24 "Your stature is like that of a palmand your breasts
229 00:10:29 "like clusters of fruit.
230 00:10:30 "I will take hold of the palm tree."
231 00:10:32 "And I will take hold of the fruit."
232 00:10:37 That's the Song of Solomon.
233 00:10:39 7:7.
234 00:10:43 (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
235 00:10:44 JIM: I'm sorry I couldn'tdrive you someplace nice.
236 00:10:48 Oh, this is someplace nice, Jim.
237 00:10:51 Tell me something. Tell me a secret.
238 00:10:53 Something that no one else knows about.
239 00:10:55 Oh, I have no secrets.
240 00:10:56 I'll tell you anything you wanna know.
241 00:10:57 We'll start with everything.
242 00:10:58 (LAUGHS)
243 00:11:00 -Okay.-(LAUGHS)
244 00:11:02 I'm the oldest of eight children
245 00:11:03 and I'm a very practical person.
246 00:11:05 And what you see is all there is of me.
247 00:11:07 You know, I don't pretendto be something I'm not
248 00:11:09 because what you see is all you get.
249 00:11:10 And I love people.
250 00:11:12 I have a genuine,genuine love for people.
251 00:11:15 And I hurt when people hurt,
252 00:11:18 and probably a little more dramaticthan people would like me to be.
253 00:11:20 But I enjoy that.That's just who I am.
254 00:11:24 I've never met anyone quite like you,Tammy Faye.
255 00:11:27 (CHUCKLES)
256 00:11:28 (LAUGHS)
257 00:11:29 Okay.
258 00:11:31 So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim?
259 00:11:35 (LAUGHING) Well, one or two.
260 00:11:39 Well, tell me.
261 00:11:40 Well, before God found me,I wanted to be a radio deejay.
262 00:11:45 (GASPS)
263 00:11:46 -No.-Yes.
264 00:11:48 I used to love to make people dance.
265 00:11:52 Have fun.
266 00:11:54 -Little Richard.-(CHUCKLES)
267 00:11:56 And Buddy Holly and...
268 00:11:58 Oh, and Fats Domino.
269 00:12:02 What happened?Why didn't you do it, Jim?
270 00:12:04 Ah.
271 00:12:05 Never mind that.
272 00:12:07 Tell me.
273 00:12:10 Um, I don't think...
274 00:12:14 Well, all right.I'll tell you, Tammy. Um...
275 00:12:17 (SIGHS) Two years ago,I was on a date
276 00:12:20 with my girlfriend, Sandy, and...
277 00:12:21 -(SOFTLY) Mm.-Oh, no,
278 00:12:22 with my girlfriend at the time.
279 00:12:24 -Mm.-But, anyhoo,
280 00:12:26 I borrowed my daddy's carto take her out,
281 00:12:27 and there was all this snowon the ground
282 00:12:31 and Fats was singing Blueberry Hill
283 00:12:36 so loud
284 00:12:39 and I... I was having these urges
285 00:12:41 that only the devil would approve of
286 00:12:43 and I lost control of the car.
287 00:12:49 And I ran over a little boy,
288 00:12:52 -little Jimmy Summerfield.-(GASPS SOFTLY)
289 00:12:54 I ruptured Jimmy Summerfield's lung...
290 00:12:57 -(SIGHS)-...with my daddy's tire.
291 00:12:59 I didn't sleep all night.
292 00:13:01 I was just up worried sickabout that boy dying.
293 00:13:03 So, I...
294 00:13:05 I made a bargain with God.
295 00:13:07 I said to Him,
296 00:13:08 "I will forsake my dreamof being a deejay.
297 00:13:11 "I will stop peddling in rock and roll
298 00:13:16 "and I'll dedicate my lifeto Him and Him alone.
299 00:13:20 "If He sees fit to save that boy's life,
300 00:13:23 "He will win two soulsright then and there."
301 00:13:28 And what happened to Jimmy Summerfield?
302 00:13:31 He lived.
303 00:13:32 -Oh.-Yes.
304 00:13:34 -Praise be to God.-Yes, praise Him.
305 00:13:36 (TAMMY SIGHS IN RELIEF)
306 00:13:39 So...
307 00:13:42 You still like me?
308 00:13:44 Oh, sure, I do, Jim.
309 00:13:47 Oh, even more now thatyou were honest with me.
310 00:13:52 I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing.
311 00:13:56 (SINGING) I found my thrill
312 00:14:01 On Blueberry Hill
313 00:14:05 (JIM CHUCKLES)
314 00:14:06 I found my thrill
315 00:14:11 When I found you
316 00:14:14 (WHISPERS) You're so loud.
317 00:14:16 Dance with me, Jim.
318 00:14:18 Here? No, I can't.
319 00:14:19 In front of all these people?Like, no...
320 00:14:21 Please?
321 00:14:24 (CHUCKLING)
322 00:14:26 The moon stood still
323 00:14:30 On Blueberry Hill
324 00:14:34 -And lingered until-(SNICKERING QUIETLY)
325 00:14:39 My dreams came true
326 00:14:46 (ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYINGON SPEAKER)
327 00:14:51 Oh, we can't.
328 00:14:53 I know.
329 00:14:55 (TAMMY GASPING)
330 00:15:00 -We can't.-I know.
331 00:15:04 (JIM GASPS, MOANS)
332 00:15:05 Oh. Oh, we can't.
333 00:15:11 I know.
334 00:15:13 (MUSIC PLAYING FAINTLYON SPEAKER)
335 00:15:16 Yeah!
336 00:15:19 What'd you do?
337 00:15:21 Hello, Mother.This is Jim Bakker,
338 00:15:23 my husband. (CHUCKLING)
339 00:15:25 JIM: Hello, Mother. (CHUCKLES)
340 00:15:27 Oh, it's such a blessingto finally meet you.
341 00:15:39 TAMMY: No.
342 00:15:40 No, Mother, we can't go back to school.
343 00:15:41 They have a rule againststudents marrying one another.
344 00:15:44 Did you know they had that rulewhen you did this?
345 00:15:46 If I know the two of you,you're just gonna love Jim.
346 00:15:49 Oh, he's so motivated.
347 00:15:50 He has so many big ideas.
348 00:15:52 Did you know?
349 00:15:54 (MUFFLED CONVERSATION)
350 00:16:01 (JIM CHUCKLES)
351 00:16:05 Well, you can educate yourselfright out of a relationship with God.
352 00:16:08 He has a plan for us.
353 00:16:10 -God or that Jim boy?-God.
354 00:16:13 What'd He tell ya to do this time?
355 00:16:15 Come spring, me and Jimare going to be traveling preachers,
356 00:16:19 bringing God's love to all people.
357 00:16:21 Anyone who's hurtingor they feel like they've been left out.
358 00:16:23 Jim will preach and I'll sing.
359 00:16:25 And we'll be likeOral Roberts and his wife.
360 00:16:29 Oral Roberts went to college.
361 00:16:31 -(SIGHS)-He has one named for him.
362 00:16:34 God said that we're supposedto have a good life.
363 00:16:36 That way, we can helpbring his love to all people.
364 00:16:39 There's a limit to God's love,Tammy Faye.
365 00:16:42 TAMMY AND JIM: No.
366 00:16:44 No, there's no limit to God's love,Mrs. Grover,
367 00:16:48 and there's no limitto Tammy Faye and I either.
368 00:16:51 We're soldiers in Christ.
369 00:16:53 We've been called to servein a very real way.
370 00:16:55 God smiles on a husband and wife.
371 00:16:57 "As a young man marries a young woman,
372 00:17:00 "so will your Builder marry you;
373 00:17:03 "as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride,
374 00:17:06 "so will your God rejoice in you."
375 00:17:09 Isaiah 62:5.
376 00:17:12 (TAMMY, JIM, AND FRED CHUCKLING)
377 00:17:14 JIM: It's something we do.
378 00:17:19 (TAMMY SNIFFLES)
379 00:17:28 Fred said that we could stayuntil the weather changes.
380 00:17:32 Got some bubbles at the swap meet.
381 00:17:35 (JIM CHUCKLES)
382 00:17:39 I'm sorry, Tam.
383 00:17:42 I feel like I'm letting you down.
384 00:17:46 She doesn't like me.
385 00:17:49 -No, Jim.-No, she doesn't.
386 00:17:52 Of course she likes you.
387 00:17:55 (JIM MOANING AND SIGHING)
388 00:17:58 TAMMY: Oh.
389 00:18:04 It makes Tammy sadto see you so sad.
390 00:18:07 (BOTH CHUCKLING)
391 00:18:09 How's there supposed to be bubbles
392 00:18:10 if there isn't enough waterto work up the bubbles?
393 00:18:13 Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim.
394 00:18:16 All I gotta do is dunk my hand.
395 00:18:21 And I swirl...
396 00:18:26 (JIM MOANS SOFTLY)
397 00:18:29 -And swirl.-(MOANS)
398 00:18:32 -(WATER LAPPING)-(JIM INHALES SHARPLY)
399 00:18:37 -(MOANS)-Am I doing that all right?
400 00:18:38 JIM: (SOFTLY) Uh-huh.
401 00:18:40 (TAMMY GASPS)
402 00:18:42 (ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYINGON RADIO)
403 00:18:53 (IN PUPPET VOICE)Well, hello there, Tammy Faye.
404 00:18:57 Hello, Mommy.
405 00:18:59 What are you doing with those things?
406 00:19:01 Well, we're gonna use thesepuppets as part of our sermon
407 00:19:03 and show the kids how wonderful God is.
408 00:19:05 And if we can get enough children to come,
409 00:19:06 they'll bring their mothersand their fathers.
410 00:19:08 And before you know it,we'll have our own church.
411 00:19:14 (IN PUPPET VOICE) Have you countedyour blessings today, Tammy Faye?
412 00:19:17 (IN NORMAL VOICE)No, not yet, Susie.
413 00:19:20 Time to count your blessings,for they are plentiful.
414 00:19:23 Okay, well, thank you for my husband.
415 00:19:27 Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy.
416 00:19:31 And thank you for Mother's understanding,even if she doesn't understand.
417 00:19:35 Oh. (WHISPERS) You're welcome.
418 00:19:39 And thank you, God, for love.
419 00:19:44 (CHUCKLES)
420 00:19:45 (CAR HORN HONKING)
421 00:19:51 (HONKING CONTINUES)
422 00:19:59 Hmm.
423 00:20:00 -(HONKS HORN)-(MUSIC PLAYING ON STEREO)
424 00:20:02 -(HONKING HORN)-(TAMMY GASPING)
425 00:20:05 (CHUCKLES IN AWE)
426 00:20:07 Jim! Whose car is this?
427 00:20:11 No.
428 00:20:13 -(GASPS)-Get in. Get in. Come on.
429 00:20:16 TAMMY: Okay.
430 00:20:18 Roll that window up.I got the heat on.
431 00:20:21 This fine vehicle
432 00:20:23 with the leather interiorand the chrome on the wheels
433 00:20:26 is a gift from Godfor us to do His work.
434 00:20:30 (TAMMY GRUNTS SOFTLY)
435 00:20:32 (IN SUSIE'S VOICE) But howcan we afford it, Jim Bakker?
436 00:20:35 (JIM CHUCKLING)
437 00:20:36 Who is this?
438 00:20:38 I'm Susie Moppet.
439 00:20:40 Aren't you cute? Well, doyou know about God, Susie?
440 00:20:43 Oh, I do.
441 00:20:44 Well, God has cancelledthe claim of poverty
442 00:20:48 and deprivation in our lives
443 00:20:49 and He has placedall the powers of heaven
444 00:20:52 and the First Bankof International Falls,
445 00:20:55 Minnesota, at our disposal.
446 00:20:57 Oh. (GASPS)
447 00:21:03 Oh, this is the nicest carI've ever seen, Jim.
448 00:21:07 "Everything works for goodfor them that love God."
449 00:21:10 Everything.
450 00:21:12 But you haveto have faith in Him
451 00:21:15 and in me and in us,'cause if you don't,
452 00:21:18 I don't knowwhat I'm doing here.
453 00:21:20 -Oh, I do, Jim.-You do?
454 00:21:24 Does she, Susie?
455 00:21:26 (IN SUSIE'S VOICE)Oh, she do, Jim!
456 00:21:28 -She really, really do!-(LAUGHING)
457 00:21:31 (ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYING)
458 00:21:39 (BOTH LAUGHING)
459 00:21:41 JIM: You sure...
460 00:21:43 It's all right here.In Psalm 37:4.
461 00:21:45 "Take delight in the Lord
462 00:21:48 "and He will give youyour heart's desires."
463 00:21:52 God starts turningthose wheels in your life!
464 00:21:55 SUSIE: You better believe it!
465 00:21:57 -JIM: Oh, now who is this?-Oh, I'm Susie Moppet.
466 00:21:59 Well, hello there, Susie Moppet.
467 00:22:01 SUSIE: Hi! Nice to meet you!
468 00:22:02 (BOTH CHUCKLING)
469 00:22:04 -She jumped up.-(CHILDREN LAUGHING)
470 00:22:07 SUSIE: (SINGING)Yes, Jesus loves me
471 00:22:09 Yes, Jesus loves me
472 00:22:11 Yes, Jesus loves me
473 00:22:13 BOTH: The Bible tells me so
474 00:22:16 Hitch up your wagon to God.
475 00:22:19 He's greater than any problem.
476 00:22:21 Us Christians, we're juststuck in the mud
477 00:22:22 like that old game.Remember that old kids' game?
478 00:22:24 God wants us just to run free.
479 00:22:27 (LAUGHTER)
480 00:22:28 (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
481 00:22:31 Well, this is a fun song,boys and girls.
482 00:22:33 So, hit it, Allie.
483 00:22:35 (SINGING IN DEEP VOICE)Jesus loves me
484 00:22:36 This I knowFor the Bible tells me so
485 00:22:39 (IN SUSIE'S VOICE)Yes, Jesus loves me
486 00:22:41 -ALLIE: The Bible tells me so-(JIM LIP-SYNCING)
487 00:22:47 ANNOUNCER:You're watching Pat Robertson
488 00:22:49 on the ChristianBroadcasting Network.
489 00:22:50 JIM: Come on.
490 00:22:52 Season all your grain offerings...
491 00:22:54 Oh, come on!
492 00:22:55 -Okay, okay, okay.-...with salt.
493 00:22:58 Do not leave the saltof the covenant of your God
494 00:23:01 out of your grain offerings.
495 00:23:03 Add salt
496 00:23:05 to all your offerings.
497 00:23:06 You know, he's not terriblydynamic for a charismatic.
498 00:23:10 JIM: I know, but people just eat him up.
499 00:23:11 ...focus on the foundation.
500 00:23:14 -Tammy, did you see that?-Hmm?
501 00:23:15 Watch close.Every now and again,
502 00:23:18 he glances up at the camera.
503 00:23:20 It is upon Him that youcan place your strong...
504 00:23:23 -See that?-(GASPS) You're right.
505 00:23:25 He's talking right to youin the comfort of your living room.
506 00:23:28 Well, if I could have watched a preacher
507 00:23:31 on TV in my own home telling me about God,
508 00:23:34 that would've made such a difference.
509 00:23:36 JIM: Mm. Amen.
510 00:23:38 Especially from someonewho preaches as good as you do, Jim.
511 00:23:43 -(JIM CHUCKLING)-(INHALES DEEPLY)
512 00:23:45 -You think?-Oh, yeah.
513 00:23:47 ...blow your home over?
514 00:23:49 You know, we could do that.
515 00:23:53 You're so much more handsome than he is.
516 00:23:57 Keep calling.
517 00:23:58 JIM: Gotta do my homework, baby.
518 00:24:00 The numbers are on your screen.
519 00:24:01 Mm. Stop it.
520 00:24:02 You're distracting me.
521 00:24:04 ...voices of angels.I hope you enjoy them,
522 00:24:07 and we have a variety...
523 00:24:09 Well, we'll have to call the preacherdown in Raleigh
524 00:24:12 and let him know we gota better gig down here.
525 00:24:14 Don't make him cross at you, Jim.
526 00:24:16 We wanna have him want us back.
527 00:24:18 JIM: Hold on.
528 00:24:19 TAMMY: What?
529 00:24:21 JIM: The car.
530 00:24:23 I...
531 00:24:26 I... I parked it here.
532 00:24:28 Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh.
533 00:24:32 Well, must've got stolen...
534 00:24:33 What?
535 00:24:34 JIM: (GASPS) Oh.
536 00:24:37 Oh, maybe it got towed.
537 00:24:39 No, I know I made the payments, so...
538 00:24:43 I think I made the payments.
539 00:24:45 Oh, Jim.
540 00:24:46 Maybe they didn't getthe payments or maybe...
541 00:24:48 Oh, no.
542 00:24:49 I don't think I forgot.
543 00:24:51 -I think I...-Okay.
544 00:24:52 -Oh, Tammy, I don't know...-We need to pray.
545 00:24:55 Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes.
546 00:24:57 TAMMY: Oh, Lord,
547 00:24:58 we are good soldiers.
548 00:25:00 -We are here for good.-Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy.
549 00:25:02 -We are here for your good.-I'm so, so, so sorry.
550 00:25:03 And we ask that you shine your light...
551 00:25:05 JIM: I shouldn't have putso much faith in that bank.
552 00:25:06 God, I'm so sorry.
553 00:25:08 Jesus, I'm so sorry.
554 00:25:09 Tammy, I'm sorry.
555 00:25:11 I'm sorry.
556 00:25:13 -Jim.-(SIGHS)
557 00:25:15 (CAR DOOR CLOSES)
558 00:25:16 MAN: Hey.
559 00:25:18 Hey, I saw you preach last night.
560 00:25:20 Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply.
561 00:25:23 TAMMY: Oh, thank you.(CHUCKLING)
562 00:25:25 JIM: Thank you.
563 00:25:26 I'm staying in the room next door.
564 00:25:28 -Can I help you with that?-(CHUCKLES) No!
565 00:25:30 Well, that's very kind of you...
566 00:25:32 (BOTH CHUCKLE DRYLY)
567 00:25:33 ...but we don't rightly knowwhere we're carrying it to.
568 00:25:36 I work at a local television station
569 00:25:38 with a minister by the nameof Mr. Pat Robertson.
570 00:25:43 (CHUCKLES)
571 00:25:44 He'd get a kick outta you two.
572 00:25:46 (UPLIFTING MUSIC PLAYING)
573 00:25:51 WOMAN 1: Yes, honey,and that's $25 a pledge.
574 00:25:54 -(PHONES RINGING)-WOMAN 2: CBN.
575 00:25:58 Can I take your pledge?
576 00:26:01 JIM: Well, I'm trying to focus.
577 00:26:05 And you're just distracting me.
578 00:26:07 You make me laugh.I was happy to find...
579 00:26:11 (MAN CHUCKLING)
580 00:26:12 JIM: You're so funny, Graham.
581 00:26:14 -Jim?-Hey, honey.
582 00:26:16 Hi, I got a new outfit for the show.
583 00:26:18 Oh, yes, I love it.
584 00:26:20 -(CLICKS TONGUE) Jim.-JIM: Yeah?
585 00:26:22 You didn't even look at me.
586 00:26:23 JIM: Oh.
587 00:26:25 (CHUCKLING) I'm sorry, Tam.
588 00:26:26 Have I ever told you
589 00:26:28 that I am the luckiest manon the face of this planet?
590 00:26:31 -(TAMMY GIGGLING)-Have I ever told you that?
591 00:26:33 -Not today.-Not today, no?
592 00:26:35 I'm going to tell you something, too,
593 00:26:37 but I'm not gonna tell you right now.
594 00:26:38 You're gonna have to wait.
595 00:26:40 -No, no, no! (CHUCKLES)-Yeah.
596 00:26:42 You just have to.
597 00:26:44 And there he is.
598 00:26:46 Every time I try and talk to him,
599 00:26:47 he just keeps making excusesnot to see me.
600 00:26:49 Well, my surprise is gonnamake you feel so much better.
601 00:26:53 I'll be right back.
602 00:26:55 No, Jim,
603 00:26:56 -the show's about to start.-JIM: Hey, Pat!
604 00:26:57 PAT: Jim! Hey!JIM: You got a second?
605 00:27:01 Have you given more thoughtto our show idea?
606 00:27:03 MAN: All right,let me get you set up.
607 00:27:04 PAT: Don't you alreadyhave your hands full
608 00:27:05 with those puppets?
609 00:27:07 Biggest earner we got.You stay focused.
610 00:27:09 JIM: Well, yes, of course,
611 00:27:10 but you shut down CBN at 10 p.m.
612 00:27:13 Why not do a late-night show?
613 00:27:15 Just kind of like Johnny Carsonfor Christians?
614 00:27:17 No, Christians don't stay up that late.
615 00:27:19 Oh, I do.
616 00:27:20 -I don't sleep at all.-PAT: What about Tam?
617 00:27:22 Well, she's gonna miss you at night.
618 00:27:24 JIM: Tammy loves the idea.MAN: Tammy, we're on.
619 00:27:26 MAN 2: Okay, we're livein five, four, three.
620 00:27:29 (PAT AND JIM CONTINUE CHATTERING)
621 00:27:33 Oh, hello, everybody!
622 00:27:34 CHILDREN: Hi, Tammy!
623 00:27:37 Well, Jim is a little bit late today,
624 00:27:40 so, um, the theme of today's show,
625 00:27:43 how about we make itall about the importance
626 00:27:44 of being places on time, hmm?
627 00:27:47 -(CHUCKLING) Oh, no! Oh, no!-(CHILDREN LAUGHING)
628 00:27:49 -I'm sorry, kids!-There he is.
629 00:27:51 I'm sorry, Tammy!I'm sorry, everybody.
630 00:27:54 I was just having a little,fun little chat
631 00:27:57 with Uncle Pat just behind the barn.
632 00:27:59 Oh, yeah, and what'd you twofellas get up to without me?
633 00:28:02 Oh, well, it's actuallysomething all you kids...
634 00:28:05 -Mm-hmm.-...are gonna wanna
635 00:28:06 tell your parents about.
636 00:28:07 It's a brand-new show just for them
637 00:28:12 right here on CBN!
638 00:28:15 -(CHILDREN CHEERING)-Well, amen!
639 00:28:17 JIM: And it's gonna be calledThe 700 Club.
640 00:28:20 TAMMY: Now, isn't that happy news?
641 00:28:22 Hallelujah! Yes! Yes!
642 00:28:25 -SUSIE: Hi, kids.-Oh.
643 00:28:26 -(CHILDREN LAUGHING)-ALL: Hi, Susie Moppet.
644 00:28:30 Hi, Jim.Today's a happy day.
645 00:28:32 Isn't it, kids?And you know why, Jim?
646 00:28:34 (CHUCKLES) Why, Susie?
647 00:28:36 Well, you're gonna havea new show, kids.
648 00:28:39 -JIM: Yes.-(ALL CHUCKLE)
649 00:28:41 SUSIE: And Jim is gonna have
650 00:28:44 a baby.
651 00:28:46 -(CHILDREN EXCLAIM)-(JIM CHUCKLES LIGHTLY)
652 00:28:47 Look at Tammy,she's right behind you.
653 00:28:49 (APPLAUSE)
654 00:28:53 We're gonna have a baby?
655 00:28:55 Isn't the world justfull of blessings, Jim?
656 00:28:58 -(CHUCKLING)-Huh?
657 00:29:00 -(PHONE RINGING)-That's right, folks!
658 00:29:02 (BOTH CHUCKLING)
659 00:29:05 We're gonna have a baby!
660 00:29:07 -(CHILDREN CHEERING)-Oh-ho-ho!
661 00:29:08 JIM: It's not a drag to be saved.
662 00:29:11 It's not a boring thing.
663 00:29:13 That's religion.See, you got 'em mixed up.
664 00:29:16 Religion is boring and dull,
665 00:29:19 -but Jesus is life.-(APPLAUSE)
666 00:29:22 Now, my next guest isa new friend to The 700 Club,
667 00:29:25 and I can smell his chicken,yes. (LAUGHING)
668 00:29:29 The Colonel, Colonel Sandersin The 700 Club!
669 00:29:34 -(ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYING)-(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
670 00:29:41 Oh, the crowd appreciates you.I think they like you.
671 00:29:45 I think they're wantingsome of that chicken.
672 00:29:47 JIM: I guessthe housewives of America
673 00:29:48 are thanking you for fixing dinner...
674 00:29:50 (PHONE RINGING)
675 00:29:53 Hello.
676 00:29:54 TAMMY: Oh, hi, Mom.
677 00:29:56 Do you know what time it is?Why are you calling so late?
678 00:29:59 Well, Jim says that I needto rest for my pregnancy,
679 00:30:02 but, oh, you know me. I can't rest,
680 00:30:05 so thought I'd call my motherto keep me company.
681 00:30:08 I never got a rest.
682 00:30:10 Oh, I miss working, though.You know?
683 00:30:12 It's so lonesome at home all by myself.
684 00:30:15 Wow! Oh, wow!
685 00:30:17 And he barely touches me anymore.
686 00:30:19 And when he does, it's not enthusiastic.
687 00:30:23 Well, it's up to the wifeto make herself desirable for her husband.
688 00:30:26 I do that. Oh, I do.
689 00:30:29 He's just really busy.
690 00:30:31 -JIM: Really?-(LAUGHTER ON TV)
691 00:30:33 So, are you watching Jim's show?
692 00:30:35 That new talk show of his is on.
693 00:30:38 Serving God don't feel like
694 00:30:39 it should bea money-making opportunity.
695 00:30:41 TAMMY: Yeah.
696 00:30:43 You know,I wanna do what he's doing.
697 00:30:45 And I wanna singand not in a puppet voice.
698 00:30:48 And I wanna talk about issuesthat affect people's daily lives.
699 00:30:51 And there's so muchthat we don't talk about.
700 00:30:53 There's so many secrets,
701 00:30:54 and, you know, everyone saysI'm supposed to be tired,
702 00:30:58 but I just wanna love people.
703 00:31:00 You got me out of bed
704 00:31:01 to talk to me about how you're not tired.
705 00:31:03 Does that make sense to you?
706 00:31:07 No.
707 00:31:09 -Sorry.-Night night, Tam. Take care.
708 00:31:12 TAMMY: Good night, Mom.I love you.
709 00:31:14 Bye.
710 00:31:16 Okay, bye-bye.
711 00:31:20 FRED: Who was it?
712 00:31:24 RACHEL: That was Tam.
713 00:31:25 FRED: How is she?
714 00:31:26 RACHEL: Well, it seems likeshe's having some trouble
715 00:31:28 with the pregnancy.What'd I miss?
716 00:31:30 JIM: ...a second childhood.
717 00:31:31 FRED: I don't know.The sound was off.
718 00:31:32 You love kids, don't you?
719 00:31:34 -You love children.-COLONEL SANDERS: I do.
720 00:31:36 I have five grandchildrenand 14 great-grandchildren.
721 00:31:39 -Wow!-(APPLAUSE)
722 00:31:42 I bet they're spoiled.Do you spoil them?
723 00:31:50 (SIGHS)
724 00:31:52 Oh, dear Lord God.
725 00:31:57 What doors are you gonnaopen up for me to walk through?
726 00:32:04 What can I do for happiness?
727 00:32:06 (SIGHS)
728 00:32:09 Oh, I wanna get back on TV.
729 00:32:14 I'm going back to work for you.
730 00:32:18 (TRADITIONAL POP MUSIC PLAYING)
731 00:32:29 -(MUSIC CONTINUES)-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
732 00:32:36 Well...
733 00:32:39 What do you think he pays himself?
734 00:32:41 Oh. (SIGHS)
735 00:32:44 I should have worn the other dress.
736 00:32:46 JIM: You look fine, honey.
737 00:32:49 Oh.
738 00:32:50 JIM: There he is.
739 00:32:51 TAMMY: Dede's wearing a mink.That's a real mink!
740 00:32:53 And it's warm outside.
741 00:32:55 You know, we...we paid for all this, Tammy.
742 00:32:57 You and me,from the swimming pool to the hot tub,
743 00:33:01 and Dede's dead animal.We paid for it.
744 00:33:03 Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way,that's for sure.
745 00:33:06 -(POLITE CHUCKLE)-My little stars!
746 00:33:10 Hello. Hey, Pat!
747 00:33:11 -What a beautiful place!-How are you?
748 00:33:12 -Oh, thank you, thank you!-Paradise!
749 00:33:15 Look at that little baby, too.Positively a chipmunk.
750 00:33:18 Thanks.
751 00:33:19 Hey, that's a nice coat.
752 00:33:20 Oh, thank you, dear.
753 00:33:21 Must be hot though.
754 00:33:23 No, not in the least.
755 00:33:24 Oh. (CHUCKLING)
756 00:33:26 PAT: Hey, Jim, I've been thinking.
757 00:33:27 -JIM: Mm-hmm?-Have you given any thought
758 00:33:29 to taking some time offto be with your family?
759 00:33:33 These times do not come back.
760 00:33:34 -No.-Trust me,
761 00:33:35 they are precious, precious times.
762 00:33:37 PAT: No, sir.JIM: Mm.
763 00:33:38 I can do The 700 Club for a time.
764 00:33:42 We can air reruns ofJim and Tammy for a few weeks.
765 00:33:46 -TAMMY: Hmm.-A couple of months even.
766 00:33:48 What do you think? (SNIFFLES)
767 00:33:51 It's very...It's very kind of you, Uncle Pat.
768 00:33:54 Thank you.
769 00:33:55 But, you know, I got that bond goingwith my audience, you know?
770 00:33:59 We're on the up-and-up.
771 00:34:00 I couldn't thinkof abandoning them right now.
772 00:34:03 -Well, we'll think about it.-Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat!
773 00:34:05 -PAT: Oh.-He came.
774 00:34:06 TAMMY: (GASPS) Oh, my goodness!
775 00:34:08 (TRADITIONAL POP MUSIC PLAYING)
776 00:34:14 -PAT: Hello! Hello!-Honey.
777 00:34:15 -I see, I see him.-Go say hi!
778 00:34:16 I know, I see him.We'll sit down, we'll sit down.
779 00:34:18 PAT: Was your drive in okay?
780 00:34:19 -Jim, go say hi!-I don't wanna say hi.
781 00:34:20 I'm fine. We'll say hi later.
782 00:34:22 PAT: You remember Jim and Tammy Faye?
783 00:34:24 -Hey, now, the puppet people!-(BOTH CHUCKLING)
784 00:34:26 Oh, my goodness, just...
785 00:34:28 What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell.
786 00:34:30 A pleasure and a blessing.
787 00:34:32 You are truly an inspiration to me.It's an honor.
788 00:34:35 Nice to meet you, Jerry.I'm Tammy.
789 00:34:37 JIM: Tammy Faye and this is Sissy.
790 00:34:39 -(TAMMY LAUGHING)-Aren't the three of you
791 00:34:40 as cute as a button?
792 00:34:41 TAMMY: Aw!PAT: Yes, sir!
793 00:34:43 JERRY: It's a moral issue...
794 00:34:46 (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
795 00:34:47 ...feminist revolution.
796 00:34:50 (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
797 00:34:55 DEDE: You know it was fate.
798 00:34:56 It was when my youngestwas being baptized,
799 00:34:59 she was such a little-bitty thing
800 00:35:01 that we had to put a little milk crate
801 00:35:02 in the baptismal for her to stand on.
802 00:35:06 Come on, let's go see Daddy.
803 00:35:13 (PANTING) Hi!
804 00:35:14 Could I sit down? (LAUGHS)
805 00:35:17 I have the baby, you know.
806 00:35:19 It's kinda hard to eat and, you know...
807 00:35:21 JIM: Sure. Um, yeah.
808 00:35:22 Using the fork and the knifeat the same time
809 00:35:25 and, you know, get the food to my mouth.
810 00:35:27 Well, why don't...
811 00:35:28 -I think...-And I wanna hear
812 00:35:29 all this interesting stuff.
813 00:35:30 -PAT: Yeah, but...-Honey...
814 00:35:32 TAMMY: Well, I'll be right back.
815 00:35:33 -Tam.-Oh.
816 00:35:34 (CHUCKLES DRYLY)
817 00:35:36 She's a firecracker, Jim.
818 00:35:37 (LAUGHTER)
819 00:35:39 (CHAIR DRAGGINGAND KNOCKING LOUDLY)
820 00:35:43 -Jim.-Yes.
821 00:35:44 Come on.
822 00:35:45 -SWAGGART: Okay.-(BOTH CHUCKLING)
823 00:35:49 SWAGGART: Okay.
824 00:35:51 Well, very nice.
825 00:35:52 (SIGHS) As you were saying, Jerry?
826 00:35:55 (TAMMY CHUCKLES)
827 00:35:56 Let's call me Reverend Falwell.
828 00:35:59 Of course.
829 00:36:02 JERRY: Young people todayare raised on television.
830 00:36:04 It's taught them an immorality.
831 00:36:06 But now, we are on television.
832 00:36:11 (PAT CHUCKLES)
833 00:36:12 When I created The 700 Club,
834 00:36:15 all I needed was 700 peopleto keep us going.
835 00:36:18 A year later,we're in six markets and growin'.
836 00:36:21 Hundreds of thousands of folksare hearin' the word.
837 00:36:26 Now, God has a voice in this fight.
838 00:36:28 SWAGGART: Amen.PAT: Mm-hmm.
839 00:36:29 Mm. Who's He fighting?
840 00:36:32 JERRY: The liberal agenda.
841 00:36:34 The feminist agenda.
842 00:36:36 Homosexual agenda.
843 00:36:38 It's time for a reversal of these trends.
844 00:36:41 The only hope's in saving America.
845 00:36:44 SWAGGART: Get back to the good old days.
846 00:36:45 -JIM: Mm. Mm.-(TAMMY CHUCKLES)
847 00:36:47 Well, I love our country,
848 00:36:50 but America is for them, too.
849 00:36:53 -Uh... Well...-(TAMMY CHUCKLES)
850 00:36:55 -Oh, Tam?-Mm?
851 00:36:56 Will you mind getting me another Coke?
852 00:36:57 Jim, let your wife speak.
853 00:37:00 Debate. I think it gets usall back to unity.
854 00:37:03 Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry.I love you.
855 00:37:06 -I love all of you guys.-Reverend Falwell.
856 00:37:09 PAT: Um...
857 00:37:10 We love you, too, Tammy Faye.
858 00:37:12 MAN: Yes, we do.
859 00:37:15 JERRY: God as my witness,
860 00:37:16 I made a pledge to continueto expose the sins in this country.
861 00:37:21 The Bible explicitlyforbids homosexuality.
862 00:37:25 There's no gray area.
863 00:37:27 TAMMY: Mm.
864 00:37:28 Well, you know, I don't thinkof them as homosexuals.
865 00:37:32 I just think of them as otherhuman beings that I love.
866 00:37:34 You know, we're all just peoplemade out of the same old dirt.
867 00:37:38 And God didn't make any junk.
868 00:37:42 Right, honey?
869 00:37:43 (TAMMY CHUCKLES)
870 00:37:46 -JIM: Tammy?-Hmm?
871 00:37:48 (BABY SISSY COOING)
872 00:37:49 -Tam.-Hmm?
873 00:37:50 You can't...What are you doing?
874 00:37:52 TAMMY: I'm changing the baby, honey.
875 00:37:54 JIM: You can't talkto him like that.
876 00:37:57 That's the big boss man.We need him to like us.
877 00:38:00 -Jim.-No, Tammy.
878 00:38:02 Look, listen to me.I'm trying to build something here.
879 00:38:06 I'm not messing around.
880 00:38:07 God told me He wants meto have what Pat has.
881 00:38:10 But if you keep acting like that,if you keep talking to Falwell that way,
882 00:38:14 I'm not gonna ever get there.
883 00:38:15 Well, God's been talking to me, too,you know, Jim?
884 00:38:17 And He said that I gotta speak up.
885 00:38:20 So, here goes.
886 00:38:22 You can't leave me at home all alone,
887 00:38:25 feeling unloved, and useless.
888 00:38:29 And He said that I belong on TVjust as much as you do.
889 00:38:32 And that I should singand I should be funny.
890 00:38:35 And I should talk about real thingsfor grown-ups.
891 00:38:38 Just, you know, just the way you do.
892 00:38:42 And...
893 00:38:44 He says I'm not gonna tell peoplewho's going to Hell, Jim.
894 00:38:49 We're in the business of healing people.
895 00:38:55 Yes.
896 00:38:57 Jerry Falwell's a powerful man,Tammy Faye.
897 00:39:03 Jim Bakker
898 00:39:06 is a powerful man.
899 00:39:09 -Jim Bakker.-(EXHALES DEEPLY)
900 00:39:12 (INHALES SHARPLY, STOMPS)
901 00:39:15 Yes, he is, Tammy Faye Bakker.
902 00:39:18 (INHALES DEEPLY)
903 00:39:20 I'm so, so sorry.I forgot my own strength...
904 00:39:25 and my manly duties.
905 00:39:27 It's okay. (CHUCKLES)
906 00:39:31 You know, we built CBN in four years
907 00:39:32 and we could build our own in half that.
908 00:39:36 Yes, I think we can.
909 00:39:39 -Oh, yeah, we can.-(LAUGHS)
910 00:39:42 -Yes.-(CHUCKLING)
911 00:39:45 Jim Bakker is gonnabe a builder for Christ.
912 00:39:50 Oh, yes, he will.
913 00:39:52 -(CHUCKLING)-And Tammy Faye Bakker
914 00:39:55 is gonna sing her gospelall around the world.
915 00:40:00 We are gonna spread His word.
916 00:40:02 Oh, my!
917 00:40:04 (BOTH LAUGHING)
918 00:40:06 (TV MUSIC PLAYING)
919 00:40:07 ANNOUNCER: Coming to youfrom Praise The Lord studios
920 00:40:09 in Charlotte, North Carolina,
921 00:40:10 broadcasting liveacross this great nation.
922 00:40:14 Praise The Lord television network
923 00:40:16 presents our five-year anniversaryChristmas special...
924 00:40:19 the Jim and Tammy Show!
925 00:40:21 TAMMY AND SINGERS: (SINGING)Ooh we're blest
926 00:40:24 We are blest
927 00:40:27 Yes, we've got shelterclothing and strength
928 00:40:29 We are blest
929 00:40:32 We're blest, we're blest, we're blest
930 00:40:35 We are blest
931 00:40:38 We don't deserve itbut yet we are blest
932 00:40:43 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
933 00:40:46 -(APPLAUSE)-Hi, everybody!
934 00:40:50 Nice to see you.Hi! How are you?
935 00:40:53 Look at all of you! Wow!
936 00:40:55 My land!
937 00:40:57 What a beautiful audience!Hi, how are you doing?
938 00:40:59 God has worked miracles!I want miracles for all of us!
939 00:41:03 We've got a marvelous show for you today.Little Richard is here!
940 00:41:06 God loves you.
941 00:41:08 He really does!
942 00:41:09 REPORTER: They are doing God's workteaching skills to the homeless.
943 00:41:12 Providing housing for unwed mothers
944 00:41:14 and handicapped children.
945 00:41:15 (SONG CONTINUES PLAYING)
946 00:41:21 PTL brings the word of Godand Jesus Christ
947 00:41:24 -to the whole world.-That's it.
948 00:41:25 -God bless you, honey.-It's a powerful thing!
949 00:41:34 REPORTER 2: Five years ago,the PTL network
950 00:41:36 was little more than a prayerand a dream.
951 00:41:39 Today, the nation'sfourth largest network.
952 00:41:42 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
953 00:41:47 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
954 00:41:52 Yes, people. We truly are blessed
955 00:41:54 because there is no condemnation for them
956 00:41:56 which are in Jesus Christ.
957 00:41:58 Therefore, if God is for us,who could be against us?
958 00:42:01 Blessed are they that hungerand thirst for His glory,
959 00:42:03 for they shall be filled.
960 00:42:05 Blessed are the pure of heart,for they shall see God.
961 00:42:09 We have gathered us into His kingdomand made us priests of God his Father.
962 00:42:13 Give unto Him everlasting glory,He rules forever! Amen!
963 00:42:17 -(MUSIC ENDS)-Amen!
964 00:42:19 Wow!
965 00:42:23 My land!
966 00:42:29 Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen,
967 00:42:31 Tammy Faye Bakker!
968 00:42:33 And it's the happiest time of the year,it's Christmas!
969 00:42:38 And remember, never forget it.
970 00:42:41 You know what I'm gonna say.God loves you.
971 00:42:44 He really, really, really does.
972 00:42:46 Merry Christmas, everyone!
973 00:42:48 -Merry Christmas!-Bye-bye, everybody!
974 00:42:51 I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man.
975 00:42:53 Jim and Tammy are gonna beso happy to see you.
976 00:42:55 I can't believe you've nevermade it down to the studios before.
977 00:42:58 Well, the Carolinas are a long wayfrom International Falls.
978 00:43:01 Have you always been involvedwith the church, Mr. Fletcher?
979 00:43:03 I've done all sorts of things.
980 00:43:05 Once, I was even a party clown.
981 00:43:07 You don't believe me, but it's true.
982 00:43:09 Come, this way.Show's about to start.
983 00:43:10 FRED: Party clown?
984 00:43:12 We'll get you set up.
985 00:43:13 MAN: But the penile implantof the inflatable type
986 00:43:15 is the one that we see here.
987 00:43:17 Mm-hmm.And this is the newest one?
988 00:43:19 Well, it is. And when the manwants to become erect,
989 00:43:22 he simply reaches down
990 00:43:24 and he squeezes that several times
991 00:43:28 and the man becomes firm.
992 00:43:29 (LAUGHS) I think that's fantastic.
993 00:43:31 (WOMEN GASPING)
994 00:43:32 -Go ahead, audience, go ahead.-(APPLAUSE)
995 00:43:37 Well, you know something elsethat's fantastic?
996 00:43:39 I'm so excited I'm just beside myself.
997 00:43:41 I would like to introduce you
998 00:43:43 to my mother and her husband,
999 00:43:47 Rachel and Fred Grover.
1000 00:43:49 Stand up, everybody, stand up.
1001 00:43:51 Come on. Stand up,
1002 00:43:52 that deserves a big ol' round of applause.
1003 00:43:56 Stand up, Mom.
1004 00:44:04 TAMMY: Thank you.
1005 00:44:05 So, here's the house.
1006 00:44:07 Isn't it beautiful?I just think it's so neat.
1007 00:44:10 Our ministry's building lots of houseson the PTL property.
1008 00:44:13 There's one with pregnant teensand one for kids with needs.
1009 00:44:16 It's all part of our missionto help people.
1010 00:44:18 FRED: This is just wonderful, honey.
1011 00:44:20 Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here.
1012 00:44:21 I got you set up in the guest room
1013 00:44:23 and you can stay thereuntil your new house is ready.
1014 00:44:26 Come on.Let me give you a tour.
1015 00:44:29 This is the relaxation room.(CHUCKLING)
1016 00:44:33 Oh, now that you're here,I'm just gonna bug you any time I want to.
1017 00:44:36 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you upany hour of the night.
1018 00:44:39 I'm just so glad to have you herein the PTL property with me, Mom.
1019 00:44:42 (SIGHS)
1020 00:44:43 All those people looking at meand clapping.
1021 00:44:46 Oh, no.
1022 00:44:48 RACHEL: I don't appreciatebeing bamboozled like that.
1023 00:44:50 It's love, Mom.
1024 00:44:52 Oh, yeah, that's God's love.
1025 00:44:53 Every day, I have rapture.
1026 00:44:56 RACHEL: Rapture?
1027 00:44:57 You just spent an hour talkingabout pumping penises.
1028 00:45:01 (FRED SNICKERS)
1029 00:45:03 Well, these things happen to people
1030 00:45:05 and I'm just being honestabout the way that life is.
1031 00:45:08 And I'm providing solutions
1032 00:45:11 to make marriages better.
1033 00:45:13 -Tam, where's the privy?-On the left.
1034 00:45:15 Okay.
1035 00:45:16 Sit down, Mom.
1036 00:45:18 Who paid for this house, Tammy?
1037 00:45:20 Well, the ministry makes lots of houses.
1038 00:45:22 We've got one for unwed mothers.
1039 00:45:23 (GASPS) Wait till you see Kevin's House.
1040 00:45:25 Oh, yeah, that one's for kidswith special needs.
1041 00:45:27 And it's named after a sweet little boynamed Kevin.
1042 00:45:30 Oh, he's 13 years old
1043 00:45:32 and he is the sweetest,tiniest little thing you ever saw.
1044 00:45:35 His hands are attached to his shoulders
1045 00:45:37 and he has no arms at all.
1046 00:45:39 Bless his little heart.
1047 00:45:41 Let me show you to your room.
1048 00:45:46 Okay, everyone,let's see if I can do this.
1049 00:45:48 So, now, you're gonnago in a circle. (LAUGHS)
1050 00:45:50 Oh, mine looks a little bitlike it had an explosion.
1051 00:45:54 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)-You know what I'm gonna do?
1052 00:45:55 'Cause normally when I use frosting,it's not this thick.
1053 00:45:58 I'm just gonna do that.
1054 00:45:59 -I think it's gonna be pretty.-(INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION)
1055 00:46:00 You know, next time,I'm gonna make you guys my fudge.
1056 00:46:02 That's the best.I think I've only made that,
1057 00:46:04 you know, on the show,like, a couple times. Mm.
1058 00:46:07 I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision,
1059 00:46:09 -so you could smell this.-(LAUGHTER)
1060 00:46:10 This is really nice.
1061 00:46:13 (CHUCKLING)
1062 00:46:18 Oh!
1063 00:46:19 That one.How much time do we have?
1064 00:46:21 MAN: 10 minutes, Tammy.
1065 00:46:22 Oh, goodness!
1066 00:46:25 Hey, Mom. Did you see the show? (CHUCKLES)
1067 00:46:27 Wasn't that fun?
1068 00:46:29 I'm not sure what's so Christianabout decorating a cupcake.
1069 00:46:32 (LAUGHS) Oh, Mom, you're so funny.
1070 00:46:34 -Have you seen this?-TAMMY: Hmm?
1071 00:46:36 From The Observer.
1072 00:46:37 Picture of you and Jim on the front.
1073 00:46:39 Ah.
1074 00:46:40 "PTL's Bakker diverts ministry funds
1075 00:46:43 "for new building project."
1076 00:46:46 What's that about?
1077 00:46:49 Well, you can't believe everything
1078 00:46:50 that you read in the newspapers, Mom.
1079 00:46:52 How's Fred doing?Is he settling in okay?
1080 00:46:54 Smoke and fireidn't just the providence of Hell, girl.
1081 00:46:57 You know when I saw thatclipping with my face on it,
1082 00:46:59 I thought for a secondthat you were proud of me.
1083 00:47:02 I'm hearing there are articles like thisin the paper every day.
1084 00:47:06 The secular press hates us
1085 00:47:08 because we're winningmillions of souls for Jesus.
1086 00:47:12 Oh, Tammy Faye.
1087 00:47:14 You follow blindly.
1088 00:47:15 In the end, all you are is blind.
1089 00:47:21 JIM: I don't know how to do it.
1090 00:47:22 I just need it done.That is your job.
1091 00:47:25 Yes.
1092 00:47:27 Yes.
1093 00:47:28 God bless you.
1094 00:47:31 (BREATHES DEEPLY)
1095 00:47:38 (TAMMY SNIFFING)
1096 00:47:42 You wonder why I don't snuggle you.
1097 00:47:45 Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you.
1098 00:47:49 (CHUCKLING) Well, it's better thanspending the night with an alligator.
1099 00:47:55 Oh. (SIGHS)
1100 00:47:57 That newspaper.
1101 00:47:59 She saved it likeit was a little treasure.
1102 00:48:03 It made me feel so rotten.
1103 00:48:06 Well, your mother's never beenall that nice to you.
1104 00:48:09 Yeah.
1105 00:48:11 Some people just don't change.
1106 00:48:14 We're not doing anything wrong, though.
1107 00:48:25 (SCOFFS) Is that a question?
1108 00:48:28 No.
1109 00:48:35 -(PHONE RINGING)-(GASPS AND SIGHS)
1110 00:48:41 (PHONE CONTINUES RINGING)
1111 00:48:43 (JIM SIGHS)
1112 00:48:46 Tammy, sometimes, I fear
1113 00:48:48 that what God wants of meis beyond my abilities.
1114 00:48:52 I'm building so much for Him
1115 00:48:54 in His name and for His people.
1116 00:48:57 -Yeah.-And...
1117 00:48:59 And He's giving memore visions every day.
1118 00:49:02 Giving me more orders all the time.
1119 00:49:04 And then, every day, these creditors...
1120 00:49:07 (PHONE CONTINUES RINGING)
1121 00:49:08 ...and the people who are asking meto save them.
1122 00:49:12 (PHONE STOPS RINGING)
1123 00:49:13 (SIGHS HEAVILY)
1124 00:49:14 -I'm only one man.-(WATER TRICKLES)
1125 00:49:16 I'm only one man, Tammy.
1126 00:49:17 TAMMY: Oh, Jim.
1127 00:49:20 Well, I only need one man.
1128 00:49:23 You're enough, honey.
1129 00:49:24 (JIM LAUGHS)
1130 00:49:26 Okay, come on. Come to bed.
1131 00:49:29 Honey, it's been two months,
1132 00:49:31 and we said we were gonna tryto have another baby.
1133 00:49:34 Tammy, I need your help.
1134 00:49:36 I need you not to get in my way.
1135 00:49:39 And I need you to not askmore of me than I can give.
1136 00:49:42 Okay.
1137 00:49:44 Do you wanna talk some more?
1138 00:49:46 -(PHONE RINGING)-(SCOFFS)
1139 00:49:52 -Can you...-(PHONE CONTINUES RINGING)
1140 00:49:54 Can you talk to God?
1141 00:49:57 -I'm so tired and...-(PHONE CONTINUES RINGING)
1142 00:50:02 Yes?
1143 00:50:04 I'll call you right back.
1144 00:50:07 I'll take it downstairs.
1145 00:50:15 (UPBEAT GOSPEL MUSIC PLAYING)
1146 00:50:21 TAMMY AND CHORUS: (SINGING)Don't give up
1147 00:50:22 You're on the brink
1148 00:50:25 Of a miracle
1149 00:50:29 Don't give up
1150 00:50:31 Remember you're not alone
1151 00:50:36 (LAUGHS)
1152 00:50:37 People, don't give upYou're on the brink
1153 00:50:42 Of a miracle
1154 00:50:45 (OVER SPEAKER)Don't give up on the brink
1155 00:50:49 -Of a miracle-(TAMMY CHUCKLES)
1156 00:50:54 Don't give in
1157 00:50:56 God is still on the throne
1158 00:51:00 He's on His throne
1159 00:51:02 -Don't give up-(VOLUME DECREASES)
1160 00:51:04 You nailed it.
1161 00:51:06 Really?
1162 00:51:08 This is sublime.This is top drawer.
1163 00:51:12 You really think so, Gary?
1164 00:51:14 I know so.
1165 00:51:15 Your opinion means so much to me.
1166 00:51:17 I haven't been this excitedabout working with an artist
1167 00:51:19 since I produced Monster Mash.
1168 00:51:21 That's really sweet.
1169 00:51:24 We could get a Grammy.
1170 00:51:26 -Really?-Really.
1171 00:51:31 (KNOCKING)
1172 00:51:33 (TAMMY CHUCKLES)
1173 00:51:34 (MUFFLED) Tammy, it's time to go.Time for the shoot.
1174 00:51:37 Come on. We're...
1175 00:51:39 (OVER SPEAKER) Can you hear me?Can you hear me?
1176 00:51:40 -Yeah.-We've been looking for you,
1177 00:51:41 so, let's go.We're live in 15 minutes.
1178 00:51:44 Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya?
1179 00:51:46 Blessed, Gary, blessed.
1180 00:51:48 I'm sorry, Jim.You know, I got lost in the music.
1181 00:51:50 Gary here,he just makes it all so awesome.
1182 00:51:53 -(BOTH CHUCKLE)-Wait till you hear it.
1183 00:51:55 You're going to love it.
1184 00:51:56 No, it's her voice, Jim.
1185 00:51:58 I just turn the knobs here.She sings like an angel.
1186 00:52:01 (CHUCKLES)
1187 00:52:02 Well, I'm never giving youback to Nashville, oh, no!
1188 00:52:06 It's such a beautiful wayto connect, Jim.
1189 00:52:08 It's God's voice through my voice.
1190 00:52:10 To the world's ears.
1191 00:52:12 The things you say, Gary.
1192 00:52:14 Tammy! You're not camera ready.
1193 00:52:16 You know everybody's waiting for youand it's a big day.
1194 00:52:18 We gotta do 400 K today.Can we shake a leg, please?
1195 00:52:21 Thank you.I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary.
1196 00:52:23 Okay! (CHUCKLES)
1197 00:52:25 Shake a leg, please.
1198 00:52:27 Sure thing, Mister.
1199 00:52:28 Thank you.
1200 00:52:29 -GARY: Jim.-Thank you, Gary.
1201 00:52:32 -Tam?-Mm?
1202 00:52:39 -TAMMY: Ta-da! I made it!-(JIM SIGHS)
1203 00:52:41 MAN: 30 seconds, everyone!
1204 00:52:44 WOMAN: Light on one, please!
1205 00:52:49 Hmm. How's that?
1206 00:52:51 MAN 2: Yeah.
1207 00:52:54 (JIM SIGHS DEEPLY)
1208 00:52:56 MAN 3: And we're live in five, four,
1209 00:52:59 three, two...
1210 00:53:06 Tammy and I are undergoingthe most vicious attacks
1211 00:53:10 in the history of this ministry.
1212 00:53:14 By now, perhaps you thinkthat we should be used to these attacks.
1213 00:53:19 But it's been going onfor a long time, Tammy.
1214 00:53:21 Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim.
1215 00:53:23 It's been going on a long time.
1216 00:53:26 We are being persecutedby the secular press
1217 00:53:29 who simply do not want youto receive the word of God.
1218 00:53:34 JIM: It is a witch hunt.
1219 00:53:36 And on top of this,we have numerous past due bills...
1220 00:53:39 that must be paid
1221 00:53:41 if we want to save the entire network
1222 00:53:43 and stay on the airdelivering the word of God every day.
1223 00:53:46 So, now is the timefor our prayer warriors
1224 00:53:50 to rise up because we are in a war.
1225 00:53:53 You know, Tammy and I,we just hate to do this,
1226 00:54:00 but if every person watching
1227 00:54:02 could double their pledge right now,
1228 00:54:06 that way, we can savethe word of God.
1229 00:54:09 I'm talking about salvation.
1230 00:54:11 Yours, mine, PTL's, the entire world's.
1231 00:54:16 So, together, if we agree together,
1232 00:54:20 let's give the devil a black eye.
1233 00:54:23 (PHONES RINGING)
1234 00:54:24 Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh.
1235 00:54:27 -Praise Jesus and praise you!-(APPLAUSE)
1236 00:54:30 And God bless you!God bless you!
1237 00:54:33 TAMMY: Hallelujah!
1238 00:54:34 And don't forget, remember,God loves you.
1239 00:54:38 -He really, really does.-He really does. (CHUCKLING)
1240 00:54:45 MAN: Cut! Very good, everyone.
1241 00:54:46 That was not bad. How was that?
1242 00:54:48 -How was it?-Uh, that was good, Jim.
1243 00:54:50 -We need to talk. Now.-Jim, it was great.
1244 00:54:53 FLETCHER: We're still gonnabe over budget on that...
1245 00:54:55 (FLETCHER CONTINUES TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
1246 00:54:59 TAMMY: I just want the sleevesa little shorter.
1247 00:55:02 Everything's about proportion.
1248 00:55:04 (TAMMY CHUCKLING)
1249 00:55:05 Okay, you ready to see?Close your eyes.
1250 00:55:10 -I love it, Mother.-(CHUCKLES)
1251 00:55:13 Oh, Sissy, you look so beautiful, baby.
1252 00:55:15 -Thank you.-(CHUCKLES)
1253 00:55:16 RACHEL: Golly Moses,this thing weighs a ton.
1254 00:55:19 Oh, goodness.
1255 00:55:20 RACHEL: Why do you have to doso much shopping, Tam?
1256 00:55:22 Well, I have to get my exercise somehow.
1257 00:55:25 And, plus, I don't wanna balloon upwith the new baby coming.
1258 00:55:28 (SOFTLY) Hey, everyone,come here, come here.
1259 00:55:31 Now, when she comes out,
1260 00:55:32 make sure you all tell herhow great she looks, okay?
1261 00:55:35 You know, she hasn't hadenough love in her life,
1262 00:55:36 and it's time that we all change that.
1263 00:55:40 (ALL ASSENT)
1264 00:55:41 Go on.
1265 00:55:44 (ALL GASPING)
1266 00:55:47 Good grief.
1267 00:55:49 You look so good! Come here.(CHUCKLES) You do.
1268 00:55:54 Right?
1269 00:55:55 Okay, get up on the pedestal.
1270 00:55:56 I am not getting up on the pedestal.
1271 00:55:57 -Come on, Grandma.-Come on.
1272 00:55:59 -Come on.-Don't push me.
1273 00:56:00 Oh! (CHUCKLES)
1274 00:56:02 Isn't it fun?We look like triplets.
1275 00:56:04 I look like a bear.
1276 00:56:06 You look like a beautiful bear.
1277 00:56:08 -Oh. It's too much.-No.
1278 00:56:10 RACHEL: I already have a coat.
1279 00:56:13 I don't need it.
1280 00:56:15 Why are you so unwilling to acceptthe love that God has for you?
1281 00:56:19 Can you pay for this?
1282 00:56:21 The pledges are rolling in, Mom.
1283 00:56:23 People really like the show
1284 00:56:26 and they're very happy to accept the love.
1285 00:56:31 Take the coat, Mom.
1286 00:56:33 Just take the coat.
1287 00:56:35 RACHEL: Well...
1288 00:56:37 TAMMY: Please, for me.
1289 00:56:40 Well, it is attractive,and it's very, very warm.
1290 00:56:46 JIM: I just feel like a million dollars.
1291 00:56:47 WANDA: It looks great, Jim.JIM: You think?
1292 00:56:49 Yeah, very subtle.
1293 00:56:50 I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing.
1294 00:56:52 And I played golf the next day.
1295 00:56:54 So, we'll have a girl's night.
1296 00:56:55 We'll go to Maciano's, get some pasta.
1297 00:56:56 SISSY: Yes, yes.
1298 00:56:57 -I love that place.-Yeah? Oh, wait.
1299 00:56:59 You know, why don't you go ahead,I'm gonna catch up.
1300 00:57:02 -I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss.-Okay.
1301 00:57:04 See ya.
1302 00:57:06 And that reporter fromThe Charlotte Observer
1303 00:57:08 -been poking around.-(JIM SIGHS)
1304 00:57:10 Calling some of our secretaries,asking for comments.
1305 00:57:13 I'm gonna put a pictureof that guy's butt...
1306 00:57:14 -(FLETCHER LAUGHS)-...on a punching bag
1307 00:57:17 and I'm gonna use it for practice.
1308 00:57:20 (LAUGHTER)
1309 00:57:21 FLETCHER: We need to talkabout the deficit
1310 00:57:22 we are runningon the expansion to studio...
1311 00:57:24 JIM: Phooey! Fletcher, no,you're such a worrywart.
1312 00:57:27 We're gonna do a telethon next week.
1313 00:57:30 The partners will not let us down.
1314 00:57:32 Wanda, my nose is shiny.
1315 00:57:33 WANDA: Mm-mm.JIM: Yes, it is.
1316 00:57:34 -WANDA: No.-I'm telling you, Wanda.
1317 00:57:36 -It's fine.-A little more powder, please.
1318 00:57:38 FLETCHER:Your nose isn't shiny, Jim.
1319 00:57:39 You're just being fussy.
1320 00:57:40 -Oh. (SNICKERS)-FLETCHER: Wanda, tell him he's fussy.
1321 00:57:42 You're fussy, Pastor Jim.
1322 00:57:43 JIM: Oh, how dare you.
1323 00:57:45 You're wearing as muchas Tammy these days.
1324 00:57:47 (JIM LAUGHS)
1325 00:57:48 Careful, you'll end uplooking like a clown.
1326 00:57:50 (JIM SNICKERING)
1327 00:57:52 -Stop it! You can't talk...-But you know it's true.
1328 00:57:54 -You know it's true.-JIM: Fletcher.
1329 00:57:55 You got Wanda laughing.
1330 00:57:57 FLETCHER: She's not laughing.What are you laughing at?
1331 00:57:59 -(WANDA LAUGHING)-It's not funny.
1332 00:58:00 (LAUGHING) It's not funny.
1333 00:58:02 JIM: (LAUGHING) You guys!
1334 00:58:03 Oh, I got a new one.
1335 00:58:06 Penny, cover your ears.
1336 00:58:08 What did the leper say to the prostitute?
1337 00:58:10 -Oh, boy.-What?
1338 00:58:11 "You can keep the tip."
1339 00:58:13 -(SCOFFS)-Oh, shit.
1340 00:58:14 (LAUGHTER)
1341 00:58:16 Jim, you mean jerk!You're gonna pay for that.
1342 00:58:19 JIM: I went too far.I went too far. I'm sorry.
1343 00:58:21 (BOTH EXCLAIM)
1344 00:58:22 -I got you now. I got you now.-JIM: Wanda! Wanda!
1345 00:58:24 FLETCHER: Wanda, come here.
1346 00:58:25 Come here and powder his nose.
1347 00:58:27 JIM: No! No!FLETCHER: "Wanda, help.
1348 00:58:28 -"Wanda. Wanda.-(BOTH LAUGHING)
1349 00:58:31 "My nose is shiny."
1350 00:58:34 Let me powder your nose.Let me powder your nose.
1351 00:58:37 (LAUGHTER CONTINUES)
1352 00:58:40 (SAD MUSIC PLAYING)
1353 00:58:47 (PLAYING SOFT MUSIC)
1354 00:58:53 (SINGING) Somebody touched me
1355 00:58:56 Hallelujah
1356 00:58:57 Somebody touched me
1357 00:59:02 Oh, I was blindBut praise His name
1358 00:59:06 I now can see
1359 00:59:09 (TAMMY VOCALIZES)
1360 00:59:10 I was in darkness
1361 00:59:15 When Jesus found me
1362 00:59:19 But since He touched me
1363 00:59:25 I now am free
1364 00:59:32 -(TAMMY CHUCKLES)-Wow.
1365 00:59:33 That was beautiful.That was lovely, Tam.
1366 00:59:35 Gary.
1367 00:59:38 Aren't you glad He touched you?
1368 00:59:40 Truly. Yeah.
1369 00:59:44 Hmm. (CHUCKLES)
1370 00:59:45 Well, this is perfect. I love this.
1371 00:59:48 (CHUCKLES) Well, it's all you,Tam, it's all you.
1372 00:59:50 Oh, no. No, no.You know I couldn't do this without you.
1373 00:59:54 You know, your voicemakes me feel closer to Him.
1374 00:59:58 Like He's right here.
1375 01:00:02 He is.
1376 01:00:05 Tam... (GRUNTS SOFTLY)
1377 01:00:09 when was the last timethat you were touched
1378 01:00:14 in the way that a womanlike you should be touched?
1379 01:00:18 Oh, well...
1380 01:00:22 I'm eight months pregnant, Gary,
1381 01:00:23 so back it up from there.(CHUCKLES)
1382 01:00:26 Does his touch tell youhow talented you are?
1383 01:00:33 Gary.
1384 01:00:34 Do his eyes tell youhow beautiful you are?
1385 01:00:40 Does he listen to you?
1386 01:00:43 Does he hear how amazing you are?
1387 01:00:46 Tammy.
1388 01:00:47 Yes.
1389 01:00:49 Can I touch you like that?
1390 01:00:52 In that way that you should be touched.
1391 01:01:01 (GASPS) You can kiss me
1392 01:01:02 -on my neck.-Okay.
1393 01:01:03 -Don't leave a mark, okay?-Yeah.
1394 01:01:07 -(TAMMY GASPING)-(KISSING)
1395 01:01:15 -(BREATHING HEAVILY)-(GARY MOANS)
1396 01:01:19 Come here.
1397 01:01:21 I wanna hold you.
1398 01:01:23 (BOTH BREATHING HEAVILY)
1399 01:01:28 -Oh, no. Oh, no.-What?
1400 01:01:31 -Leave them on.-All right.
1401 01:01:34 Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy.
1402 01:01:35 Oh, you're so big.
1403 01:01:37 Oh, yeah.
1404 01:01:39 I like this.
1405 01:01:41 Yeah.
1406 01:01:43 (BOTH MOAN)
1407 01:01:45 (MOANING STOPS)
1408 01:01:47 What? What's wrong?
1409 01:01:49 My water broke.
1410 01:01:54 TAMMY: Mm.
1411 01:01:56 (SOFTLY) You're so beautiful.
1412 01:01:58 (FOOTSTEPS APPROACH)
1413 01:02:00 -(BABY FUSSES)-(CHUCKLES)
1414 01:02:01 (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
1415 01:02:05 (CHUCKLES)
1416 01:02:06 He's so precious, Jim.
1417 01:02:17 GARY: Congratulations, Jim.
1418 01:02:37 (SOFTLY) I understandthat Gary drove you here?
1419 01:02:42 GARY: We called the studio, Jim,but you were on the air.
1420 01:02:46 Tammy was real upsetthat you weren't here for it.
1421 01:02:49 No... (FUMBLES)
1422 01:02:51 I'm just wonderful, Jim.I'm... I'm so wonderful.
1423 01:02:58 We announced his birth on air.We got a real surge in pledges.
1424 01:03:03 Praise the Lord.
1425 01:03:04 We're gonna getthat expansion in Studio 3,
1426 01:03:06 thanks to this little miracle.
1427 01:03:08 GARY: Hmm. Congrats, Jim.
1428 01:03:11 This is such a day of joy.
1429 01:03:15 A day of celebration,
1430 01:03:17 but I just can't help the feelingthat something else is going on here.
1431 01:03:22 (JIM BREATHES DEEPLY)
1432 01:03:24 That something depraved
1433 01:03:27 taints this day.
1434 01:03:31 GARY: Depraved is a very big word, Jim.
1435 01:03:35 But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy?
1436 01:03:39 (CRYING)
1437 01:03:42 Yes, Jim.
1438 01:03:46 (CONTINUES CRYING)
1439 01:03:51 Well, Fletcher's waiting outside
1440 01:03:56 and he'll get this man back to Nashville,where he belongs.
1441 01:03:58 -Oh, no. Jim, please, no.-JIM: Tammy.
1442 01:04:00 TAMMY: Please.JIM: Tammy, I suggest
1443 01:04:02 you don't talk right now.
1444 01:04:04 (CONTINUES CRYING)
1445 01:04:05 Tammy.
1446 01:04:08 Tammy, I hope you're not gonnalet him do this.
1447 01:04:11 -(TAMMY CONTINUES CRYING)-Tammy?
1448 01:04:13 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
1449 01:04:17 Sorry.
1450 01:04:19 -(BABY FUSSING)-(GARY SIGHS)
1451 01:04:20 (BABY CRYING)
1452 01:04:22 I'm so sorry, Jim.
1453 01:04:24 (BABY AND TAMMY CONTINUE CRYING)
1454 01:04:28 I'm so sorry.
1455 01:04:39 Can you take the baby away from her,please?
1456 01:04:41 NURSE: Okay. All right.
1457 01:04:47 Let me get you something tohelp you sleep, okay, honey?
1458 01:05:04 (BABY COOING)
1459 01:05:10 (BELL JINGLING)
1460 01:05:16 JIM: (MUFFLED) Yes.That's exactly what I told you.
1461 01:05:20 Formal living quartersfor some of the staff.
1462 01:05:22 MAN: Wow!
1463 01:05:24 -JIM: Yes.-So ornate.
1464 01:05:25 JIM: Inspired by European architect.
1465 01:05:27 And over here,
1466 01:05:29 that's the first Christian water park.
1467 01:05:33 "We are fishers of men."
1468 01:05:35 That's the bait.
1469 01:05:36 -(JIM LAUGHS)-That's good.
1470 01:05:38 JIM: I wanted to show you this, too.
1471 01:05:39 See, over here... Yes.
1472 01:05:42 This is Old Jerusalem.
1473 01:05:45 And it's a stunning replica.
1474 01:05:47 Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim.
1475 01:05:49 -Yeah.-So detailed.
1476 01:05:53 You know what they say about details?God is in 'em.
1477 01:05:57 -(LAUGHING) Yes.-That's right.
1478 01:05:59 You know,for as long as I can remember, Roe,
1479 01:06:01 I've dreamed of a vacation destinationfor Christian families to come to.
1480 01:06:05 A place where they can, um...
1481 01:06:08 Hey, Tam.
1482 01:06:09 A place where they know
1483 01:06:11 that their children are gonna be safe,you know?
1484 01:06:13 ROE: Sure.
1485 01:06:14 We're selling partnerships to fund it.
1486 01:06:16 And that way, the partners,
1487 01:06:18 they feel the sense of ownership
1488 01:06:20 and a pride in this Christian paradise
1489 01:06:25 that they've built.
1490 01:06:26 Uh... Um, how many partnershipsdo you have to sell in order to fund it?
1491 01:06:33 JIM: Hmm. Well...
1492 01:06:39 a lot. (LAUGHING)
1493 01:06:41 Yes.
1494 01:06:42 You know, because the partnershipswe've already sold,
1495 01:06:46 they've had to goto funding other projects.
1496 01:06:50 -I see.-Yes.
1497 01:06:53 But I've been praying on it.
1498 01:06:55 I've been hopingthat you could advance PTL
1499 01:06:57 just a little bit of credit.
1500 01:07:00 Just to get the bulldozers moving,you know?
1501 01:07:07 Hi, honey.
1502 01:07:10 Uh, this is Roe Messner.
1503 01:07:12 He's the developer of Heritage USA.
1504 01:07:14 Well, I'm not the developer yet.
1505 01:07:16 JIM: (LAUGHING) Yeah.
1506 01:07:18 Hi.
1507 01:07:22 (JIM SIGHS QUIETLY)
1508 01:07:24 (SOFTLY) The doctors have hadher on so many loopy things
1509 01:07:28 since Jamie Charles was born.
1510 01:07:31 Pills to make her normal.Pills to make her sleep.
1511 01:07:35 Um, as long as she's feelin' better.
1512 01:07:38 Yes. Amen.
1513 01:07:41 I love what you're trying to do here, Jim.
1514 01:07:44 JIM: Mm.ROE: I do.
1515 01:07:46 I spent some summers with my wife
1516 01:07:49 at Knott's Berry Farm.
1517 01:07:51 Every year the jelliesgot less and less fresh.
1518 01:07:54 -JIM: Mm.-And I'm convinced
1519 01:07:56 it's 'cause they startedhiring the wrong kinds of people
1520 01:08:00 to make the preserves.
1521 01:08:02 I knew you were my man, Roe.
1522 01:08:04 ROE: (CHUCKLES) But, uh...
1523 01:08:07 I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker.
1524 01:08:10 -Oh, well...-Oh, this isn't gambling, Roe.
1525 01:08:14 Oh, no, it's faith.
1526 01:08:16 I have seen him perform miracles.
1527 01:08:20 ROE: Huh.
1528 01:08:21 I haven't had anyoneclaim to be a faith healer to my face
1529 01:08:24 since I was about six years old. (LAUGHS)
1530 01:08:28 Well, buildings are miracles.
1531 01:08:32 Aren't they, Roe?
1532 01:08:33 Well, it's amazinganything ever gets built, that's for sure.
1533 01:08:37 Yeah.
1534 01:08:38 This is beautiful.
1535 01:08:41 We must take a leap of faith for God.
1536 01:08:44 Especially when the Devilis makin' us doubt.
1537 01:08:48 God's on our side, Roe.
1538 01:08:52 Every time we fall,
1539 01:08:55 God proves His love again
1540 01:08:58 and we come back.(CHUCKLES, SNIFFLES)
1541 01:09:00 We come back bigger,and stronger, and better.
1542 01:09:12 "All things work for goodto them that love God,
1543 01:09:18 "to them who are calledaccording to His purpose."
1544 01:09:33 And I called you, Roe.
1545 01:09:39 (CHUCKLES)
1546 01:09:42 (WATER RUNNING)
1547 01:09:47 (JIM CLEARS THROAT)
1548 01:09:49 -(SNIFFLES)-You're welcome.
1549 01:09:55 You're owed a "thank you"?
1550 01:09:58 He was nowhere near saying yesuntil I sat down.
1551 01:10:01 Oh, yes, to flirt with him.
1552 01:10:09 Are you gonna divorce me, Jim?
1553 01:10:12 I don't know.
1554 01:10:16 I should.
1555 01:10:20 But God hates divorce.
1556 01:10:23 It ruined your mother.
1557 01:10:26 It'll do the same to you.
1558 01:10:27 You stopped paying attention to me, Jim.
1559 01:10:30 You broke faith with me, Tammy!
1560 01:10:33 Gary, he told me that I was beautifuland that I was talented.
1561 01:10:37 -And he wanted me, Jim.-(SIGHS DEEPLY)
1562 01:10:39 JIM: (LOUDLY) Don't touch me!
1563 01:10:40 Gary wanted me, Jim,in ways that you don't.
1564 01:10:44 JIM: Oh, my goodness.
1565 01:10:46 He was my friend.
1566 01:10:48 You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy.
1567 01:10:51 From the President.
1568 01:10:52 The President of the United States,
1569 01:10:55 Ronald Reagan himself,wrote me a personal letter
1570 01:10:58 thanking me for my supportin his election!
1571 01:11:02 I'm an important man, Tammy Faye!
1572 01:11:05 And people don't treat important menthe way that you treated me.
1573 01:11:10 -(BOOK THUDS)-(JIM SIGHS)
1574 01:11:12 I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray.
1575 01:11:15 I'm gonna think about what I want.
1576 01:11:20 (CRYING)
1577 01:11:22 Jim?
1578 01:11:29 (BIRDS CHIRPING)
1579 01:11:47 TAMMY: (TEARFULLY)Oh, God. How can I fix this?
1580 01:11:53 God?
1581 01:11:58 Where'd you go?
1582 01:12:00 Where are you?
1583 01:12:03 Why can't I feel you?
1584 01:12:05 (CRYING)
1585 01:12:07 Where are you?
1586 01:12:11 Oh... (SOBS)
1587 01:12:17 Where are you?
1588 01:12:18 Tammy? Tammy, it's all right.
1589 01:12:20 -Jim.-I'm here. I'm here.
1590 01:12:24 It's all right. Shh. It's all right.
1591 01:12:31 Um...
1592 01:12:33 -Tammy, I, um...-(GASPS)
1593 01:12:37 I prayed on it. And, um...
1594 01:12:41 What?
1595 01:12:43 You know,maybe I've been a better builder
1596 01:12:45 than I've been a husband.
1597 01:12:50 -Yeah.-Yes.
1598 01:12:52 But I know for certain
1599 01:12:55 (TEARFULLY) that you arethe only woman on Earth
1600 01:12:59 who understands me. (SNIFFLES)
1601 01:13:02 -(CRYING)-Oh, honey.
1602 01:13:05 It makes me so happythat you're saying that.
1603 01:13:07 -(CONTINUES CRYING) Tammy.-Baby.
1604 01:13:11 -(CHUCKLES AFFECTIONATELY)-I'm sorry.
1605 01:13:14 -(JIM SIGHS DEEPLY)-Oh...
1606 01:13:19 You really hurt me.
1607 01:13:22 I know, Jim.
1608 01:13:25 And I think you have to apologize.
1609 01:13:27 I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim.
1610 01:13:31 To the partners.
1611 01:13:34 -Mm?-On air.
1612 01:13:39 Today.
1613 01:13:43 Oh.
1614 01:13:45 (TEARFULLY) I learned the bestlesson in my whole life
1615 01:13:50 because of something terrible that I did
1616 01:13:54 that I cannot take back.
1617 01:13:57 I learned how much I love my husband,
1618 01:14:00 how much I care for my husband.
1619 01:14:02 (PHONE RINGING)
1620 01:14:04 And I learned a lesson of loneliness
1621 01:14:06 such as I never experiencedin my whole life.
1622 01:14:10 (PHONE RINGING)
1623 01:14:12 All of a sudden, I realized
1624 01:14:15 that there was a lot more to marriage
1625 01:14:18 than just the sparkles. (CRIES)
1626 01:14:20 -(PHONE RINGING)-(JIM EXHALES DEEPLY)
1627 01:14:22 -WOMAN: We're with you, Tammy!-(CRYING)
1628 01:14:25 WOMAN 2: PTL.MAN: PTL.
1629 01:14:27 -How can I help you?-WOMAN 3: Ah. Bless you.
1630 01:14:30 (CONTINUES CRYING)
1631 01:14:32 (UPBEAT SOUL MUSIC PLAYING)
1632 01:14:35 JIM: Because of our satellite,from this moment on,
1633 01:14:39 the PTL Television Networkplans to broadcast 24 hours a day
1634 01:14:44 till the second coming of Christ.
1635 01:14:46 (SINGING) Jesus keeps ontakin' me higher and higher
1636 01:14:50 SINGERS: Higher and higherHigher and higher
1637 01:14:54 Jesus keeps on takin' mehigher and higher
1638 01:14:57 SINGERS: Higher and higherHigher and higher
1639 01:15:01 -Hi, everybody!-(APPLAUSE)
1640 01:15:03 God has a fixed law of giving.
1641 01:15:06 He gives me a shoveYeah
1642 01:15:08 JIM: If you're not giving,
1643 01:15:09 you cannot expect to haveabundancy coming back to you.
1644 01:15:13 -(PHONE RINGING)-If you aren't giving,
1645 01:15:15 you're gonna have a harvest of misery!
1646 01:15:17 -(PHONE RINGING)-You're gonna have
1647 01:15:19 -a harvest of pain!-PTL.
1648 01:15:20 You're gonna have a harvest of sickness!
1649 01:15:23 If you can't go to Jerusalem,
1650 01:15:24 you could come to Heritageand you could go to the Upper Room.
1651 01:15:27 Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem.
1652 01:15:29 Except you don't have to get on a plane.
1653 01:15:31 You know, if everyone watching
1654 01:15:33 could double their pledgejust for one month...
1655 01:15:35 If you haven't sent your pledgefor $15 a month,
1656 01:15:38 do it now and I want to send youSusie Moppet puppets.
1657 01:15:42 God becomes your source when you give
1658 01:15:46 and you sow in his kingdom.
1659 01:15:48 It works.
1660 01:15:50 SINGERS: Higher, higher, higher
1661 01:15:53 Whoo
1662 01:15:55 Wow
1663 01:15:57 Whoo
1664 01:15:58 The PTL TV network iscarrying out a master plan...
1665 01:16:02 opening centers all across the country
1666 01:16:03 to provide food, clothing, furniture,and job bank centers.
1667 01:16:06 TAMMY: Jesus keeps onleadin' me higher and higher
1668 01:16:14 SINGERS: Higher, higherHigher, higher
1669 01:16:17 -Hi, everybody.-(APPLAUSE)
1670 01:16:18 SINGERS: Higher, higherHigher, higher
1671 01:16:22 Higher, higherWhoo
1672 01:16:25 Higher, higher, higherWhoo
1673 01:16:28 Jesus keeps onleadin' me higher and higher
1674 01:16:30 JIM: I've seen the rich
1675 01:16:32 and I've seen people with little
1676 01:16:34 who are more blessed
1677 01:16:36 than the millionaires that I've knownwho are worried sick
1678 01:16:39 'cause the stock marketdoesn't know what it's doing!
1679 01:16:41 It's going up, it's going down!
1680 01:16:43 But people who have sown seedin the word of God,
1681 01:16:45 their stock is always up!
1682 01:16:48 Higher and higher
1683 01:16:50 -(SINGERS VOCALIZE)-(MUSIC ENDS)
1684 01:16:57 JIM: That's why we chose this plot.
1685 01:16:58 And with the help of your investment,
1686 01:17:00 we could build a shopping complexaround the hotel
1687 01:17:02 and then we're going to have a trolley.
1688 01:17:04 JERRY: Mm.
1689 01:17:06 It's gonna wrap around the whole place,
1690 01:17:08 making stops at everywhere thereat Heritage Island, the Heritage Grand,
1691 01:17:12 and then hereat what is going to be our coliseum.
1692 01:17:17 We're gonna have a coliseum.
1693 01:17:18 -JERRY: Coliseum.-(LAUGHING) Yes.
1694 01:17:20 You planning on sacrificing Christians?
1695 01:17:24 (CHUCKLING) Oh, no. No.
1696 01:17:27 (LAUGHING) Oh, Jerry, no.We rise again in our coliseum.
1697 01:17:30 This is, uh, gonna beChristian rock concerts.
1698 01:17:33 Something for the kids.
1699 01:17:35 I really wish you wouldn'tencourage these blasphemers.
1700 01:17:42 -Isn't it beautiful?-It really is. Mm-hmm.
1701 01:17:45 JIM: (IN DISTANCE)The trees, the oxygen is...
1702 01:17:48 Are you cold?
1703 01:17:50 Are you...
1704 01:17:52 Stupid question. (CHUCKLING)Of course you're not cold.
1705 01:17:55 -Sorry.-(CHUCKLES) Oh, I'm super.
1706 01:17:59 (TAMMY CHUCKLES)
1707 01:18:03 JIM: So, what do you think, Reverend?
1708 01:18:04 We would be tickled pinkto have your support.
1709 01:18:07 -JERRY: Jim? (SIGHS)-Yes?
1710 01:18:09 JERRY: The coalitionthat we delivered to Reagan,
1711 01:18:11 Vice President Bush...
1712 01:18:13 well, he's counting on usdoing the same thing for him in '88.
1713 01:18:17 Um...
1714 01:18:19 You know that Pat called me
1715 01:18:22 and he told me that he's thinkingabout making a bid for President.
1716 01:18:26 Pat Robertson's a good man.
1717 01:18:28 But if he runs,he'll peel away vital Republican votes.
1718 01:18:32 We're in a fight here, Jim.
1719 01:18:34 This gay cancer is affecting our country,our families.
1720 01:18:39 Republicans can't win without us.
1721 01:18:42 You need to understandhow powerful we are
1722 01:18:45 in this fight for our nation's soul.
1723 01:18:47 JIM: Mm.
1724 01:18:49 We should just stay out of itand keep politics out of the church.
1725 01:18:52 Too much on the line.
1726 01:18:55 Democrats are already trying to strip awayour churches' tax exempt status.
1727 01:19:01 (JIM SIGHS)
1728 01:19:02 Oh, this time, we'll keepthe evangelicals in the tent.
1729 01:19:08 When's lunch?
1730 01:19:10 TAMMY: Well, hello, everyone,
1731 01:19:11 it's just so niceto have you here with us.
1732 01:19:13 We have an experience todaythat really is touching to me.
1733 01:19:17 Right here on my right,I have a young man named Steve Pieters,
1734 01:19:19 and I'd like to introduce you to Steve.
1735 01:19:21 (VOICE QUIVERING)Steve is a patient of AIDS
1736 01:19:24 and he's so generously allowed usto talk to him today.
1737 01:19:28 He is presently taking chemotherapyand is unable to travel.
1738 01:19:31 So, we have a satellite hookuplive from LA.
1739 01:19:35 -Hello, Steve! (CHUCKLES)-Hi, Tammy.
1740 01:19:38 We're so glad to see you.
1741 01:19:41 I'm so happy I could be here.
1742 01:19:42 Okay, Steve.At what time in your life
1743 01:19:45 did you feel like you were different?
1744 01:19:47 Did you feel like maybe you weren'tlike some of the other guys?
1745 01:19:51 I realized I was gaywhen I was about 11 or 12.
1746 01:19:55 I talked with a pastor in the churchwhere I grew up
1747 01:19:59 and, um, he was freaked out.
1748 01:20:01 Mm.
1749 01:20:02 He told me, "Don't tell anybody."
1750 01:20:06 Never tell anybody anything about it
1751 01:20:10 and it will go away,
1752 01:20:12 but it didn't go away.
1753 01:20:14 Okay, I have another question.
1754 01:20:15 JERRY: So, the satelliteis directly above us?
1755 01:20:17 JIM: Yes, it orbits us.
1756 01:20:19 That's how we're able to reachso many folks just simultaneously.
1757 01:20:23 Let me ask you, Jerry,what's your viewership
1758 01:20:25 over at Liberty Broadcasting?
1759 01:20:27 Oh, well, I'm proud to saythat we reach three million viewers a day.
1760 01:20:31 My goodness. Praise God.That's just wonderful.
1761 01:20:36 And you?
1762 01:20:38 Well, we here at PTL,we reach 20 million viewers a day
1763 01:20:42 in 56 countriesjust because of that miracle
1764 01:20:46 -up there in the sky.-(TV CONVERSATION CONTINUES)
1765 01:20:48 Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to.
1766 01:20:50 TAMMY: And, Steve,because of this feeling,
1767 01:20:51 did you try to make friends with girls?
1768 01:20:52 And did you try to bearound girls and everything
1769 01:20:55 so no one would think anything?
1770 01:20:56 Oh, sure, I dated girls.
1771 01:20:58 I tried to "program" myself to be straight
1772 01:21:02 and it never worked.
1773 01:21:04 TAMMY: So, what made you feel...
1774 01:21:06 And what's this, Jim?
1775 01:21:07 TAMMY: ...like there wasno way for you to be straight?
1776 01:21:09 I don't know.
1777 01:21:10 -This is not...-It was from meeting
1778 01:21:13 other gay people who were happywith the way they were
1779 01:21:16 that made me realizeI could be happy with the way I am.
1780 01:21:19 -Now, I find this problematic.-(JIM SIGHS)
1781 01:21:21 Yes. Well, you know Tammy,
1782 01:21:23 she... she connects in her own way and...
1783 01:21:26 Okay, Steve. What did you feel
1784 01:21:28 when you first heard the word AIDS?
1785 01:21:32 Was it just a word to you, Steve?
1786 01:21:34 Well, yes. Why would it hurt me?I was a good Christian pastor.
1787 01:21:38 I... I can't look at this.
1788 01:21:40 JIM: No.
1789 01:21:41 She must have programmed itlast minute or...
1790 01:21:43 You need to get her under control.
1791 01:21:44 No, no. Let me help.
1792 01:21:47 Believe you me,I will be having words with her.
1793 01:21:50 -She's been acting very...-Jim.
1794 01:21:51 Yes?
1795 01:21:52 We have our differences.
1796 01:21:55 People forget sometimesa pastor needs a pastor.
1797 01:21:58 STEVE: (ON TV)As Jesus says in Mark 5...
1798 01:22:00 Reach out.
1799 01:22:02 Yes.
1800 01:22:05 What happenedwhen you told your mom and dad
1801 01:22:06 that you were feeling this way?
1802 01:22:07 -Well, my mother cried.-Uh-huh.
1803 01:22:10 And my father held my hand
1804 01:22:13 and told me that I was his son,no matter what.
1805 01:22:16 Ah, thank God.
1806 01:22:19 You know,thank God for a mom and dad
1807 01:22:22 who will stand with a young person.
1808 01:22:25 I think that's so important
1809 01:22:26 because no matter what happensto a young person in their lives,
1810 01:22:29 they're still your boy,they're still your girl
1811 01:22:32 no matter what happens in their life.
1812 01:22:33 And I think it's very important
1813 01:22:35 that we as mom and dadslove through anything.
1814 01:22:38 And that's the way with Jesus, you know?
1815 01:22:40 Jesus loves us through anything.
1816 01:22:42 Jesus loves me just the way I am.
1817 01:22:45 Jesus loves the way that I love.
1818 01:22:48 And have you found it to be true
1819 01:22:50 that people wanna stay away
1820 01:22:52 and that they're afraid to bein the same room as you
1821 01:22:55 and breathe the same air that you breathe?
1822 01:22:58 Yes, Tammy.
1823 01:23:00 (VOICE BREAKING)And how sad is that?
1824 01:23:03 That we as Christians
1825 01:23:05 who are supposed to love everyone
1826 01:23:09 are afraid so badly of an AIDS patient
1827 01:23:13 that we will not go up to them
1828 01:23:15 and put our arm around them
1829 01:23:18 and tell them that we care?
1830 01:23:23 (SNIFFLES)
1831 01:23:25 (PHONE RINGING IN DISTANCE)
1832 01:23:26 This is an emotional interview for me.
1833 01:23:28 I just met Steve
1834 01:23:30 and it's like meeting him in personfor the first time.
1835 01:23:32 I wanna put my arm around you.
1836 01:23:34 And I wanna put my arms around you,Tammy Faye.
1837 01:23:36 (CHUCKLES)
1838 01:23:39 -(PHONES RINGING)-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1839 01:23:42 WOMAN: PTL.MAN: PTL.
1840 01:23:45 WOMAN: That's very good. Yes.
1841 01:23:48 WOMAN 2: (WHISPERS)Every time she calls, she screams,
1842 01:23:50 "Jim and his buddy had sex on me."
1843 01:23:51 -FLETCHER: Okay. Shh.-"Now, I'm gonna kill myself.
1844 01:23:53 "Jim Bakker'll have mygosh darn blood on his hands."
1845 01:23:55 FLETCHER: Now...
1846 01:23:56 WOMAN 2: Never heardso many curse words.
1847 01:23:57 Not even from my brother Pete.
1848 01:23:59 FLETCHER: Right.
1849 01:24:00 -Did a caller upset you, dear?-FLETCHER: Tammy...
1850 01:24:01 Yes.
1851 01:24:02 Oh, I'm so sorry.You know, when we do shows like this,
1852 01:24:05 really, we're challenging Christiansto open their hearts.
1853 01:24:08 -And some don't take it that well.-Tammy, I will handle this.
1854 01:24:10 Oh, no, I have this, Richard.
1855 01:24:12 It wasn't about the AIDS man.It was about Jim.
1856 01:24:15 She's called before.We all call her "The Shrieker."
1857 01:24:17 She says Jim and his buddyhad sex on her.
1858 01:24:19 Tammy, you're needed on stage four.
1859 01:24:21 Gosh, we've been havingthese pranks for a long time.
1860 01:24:24 And some people,they're just hurting so bad
1861 01:24:26 and we just need to love them.(CHUCKLES)
1862 01:24:29 Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him.Believe me.
1863 01:24:33 I know him better than anyone.
1864 01:24:38 (BREATHING HEAVILY)
1865 01:24:44 (UNNERVING MUSIC PLAYING)
1866 01:24:58 Join the PTL Club,
1867 01:24:59 and Tammy wants to send youa copy of her book...
1868 01:25:02 about how to overcome fear.
1869 01:25:06 (MUFFLED) If you haven'tsent in your pledge...
1870 01:25:09 $15, that is all, $15 a month,
1871 01:25:12 it'll change your life
1872 01:25:15 and, uh, we could all usea little bit of that.
1873 01:25:17 So, Tammy, I think you oughtasing a song for us.
1874 01:25:20 Oh, I'm back herelooking at the boat, Jim.
1875 01:25:22 Isn't this a magnificent thing?
1876 01:25:24 JIM: Yes.
1877 01:25:25 Right here in our beach.
1878 01:25:26 JIM: Looks brand new, I bet.
1879 01:25:29 One of the local boat companies
1880 01:25:30 -loaned it to us, I bet.-I'm gonna take my shoes off.
1881 01:25:32 I'm gonna wade in the water.
1882 01:25:35 JIM: I don't thinkthat boat's ever seen water.
1883 01:25:38 Oh, it's fake. That's...
1884 01:25:41 That's why.
1885 01:25:43 (JIM LAUGHING)
1886 01:25:44 "That's why" what, Tam?
1887 01:25:48 TAMMY: That's why I can't hear Him.
1888 01:25:50 JIM: Oh.
1889 01:25:52 How can I hear Him when the sky is fake?
1890 01:25:56 JIM: You want to stand up, honey?
1891 01:25:57 We're trying to do a TV show here, baby.
1892 01:25:59 You wanna come give me some help?
1893 01:26:01 No? Well...
1894 01:26:05 (CHUCKLES AWKWARDLY)
1895 01:26:06 I guess it's a good timeas any to work on the tan.
1896 01:26:09 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
1897 01:26:12 Well, if Tammy's not going to sing,I guess I am.
1898 01:26:15 (SINGING) Oh, we're blest
1899 01:26:16 We're blest, we're blest
1900 01:26:20 JIM: We just got her home.
1901 01:26:22 She's doing okay, she's fine.
1902 01:26:24 No, yeah. We'll be taking herto the Betty Ford Center in the morning.
1903 01:26:28 She just needs to rest.No shows for a while.
1904 01:26:32 (WHISPERS) What's happeningwith the other thing?
1905 01:26:37 (WHISPERS) Can I just sayI love you so much?
1906 01:26:40 -(CHUCKLES)-I love you.
1907 01:26:42 My friends are gonna be so excitedwhen I tell them that I met you.
1908 01:26:50 (NURSE CLEARS THROAT)
1909 01:26:53 RACHEL: Tammy?
1910 01:26:55 You had enough drugs in your systemto kill a truck driver.
1911 01:26:59 I did?
1912 01:27:00 The doctor told usif you'd waited a day longer,
1913 01:27:02 you would have had brain damage.
1914 01:27:04 You could have died.
1915 01:27:06 You can't take all those pills, honey.
1916 01:27:08 They're addictive.
1917 01:27:09 I didn't know that. I'll stop.
1918 01:27:12 The doctors didn't tell me that.
1919 01:27:14 I'm not a drug addict.
1920 01:27:17 I'm only addicted to Diet Coke.
1921 01:27:20 You have to stay right here.
1922 01:27:24 God doesn't want you yet.
1923 01:27:26 I have always prayed to Him
1924 01:27:28 that He would allow you to save the soulsthat I wasn't able to.
1925 01:27:33 And He has.
1926 01:27:36 You do.
1927 01:27:38 So, you have to stay right here.
1928 01:27:43 Okay?
1929 01:27:45 Okay, Mom.
1930 01:27:58 (HUMMING)
1931 01:28:24 JIM: Tammy.
1932 01:28:25 Oh. Hi, Jim.
1933 01:28:30 The Devil's coming for me, Tammy.
1934 01:28:34 Can we talk about Satan later?
1935 01:28:37 (SIGHS) You know,I'm trying to feel like myself again.
1936 01:28:39 JIM: There was a woman...
1937 01:28:44 Fletcher set it up
1938 01:28:46 after you did what you did with Gary.
1939 01:28:52 I did it to prove something to myself,I think. I... I don't know.
1940 01:28:57 I hated it.
1941 01:29:01 (SIGHS) I ended up just cryingin the bathroom.
1942 01:29:06 (JIM SIGHS DEEPLY)
1943 01:29:11 I fell...
1944 01:29:13 (SIGHS)
1945 01:29:14 a long way.
1946 01:29:18 I'm so sorry.
1947 01:29:24 Say something.
1948 01:29:29 I've been hurting so bad, Jim.
1949 01:29:32 For years.
1950 01:29:36 And there's never any releaseto the pain.
1951 01:29:40 There's never anythingto make it stop hurting.
1952 01:29:44 And when I get up in the morning,
1953 01:29:48 I feel like I'm just gonna throw up...
1954 01:29:51 and throw up, and throw up.
1955 01:29:56 And I have to self-talk myself,"You can make it, Tammy.
1956 01:29:59 (VOICE BREAKING)"You can make it.
1957 01:30:01 "Don't give up."
1958 01:30:05 (CRYING)
1959 01:30:08 Damn it, Jim!
1960 01:30:12 I'm so sick from my faith in you!
1961 01:30:20 Well, I'm sick of you, too.
1962 01:30:25 You try being married to Tammy Faye.
1963 01:30:29 All I've been doing is tryingto keep our marriage together,
1964 01:30:34 keep the ministry together,working night and day
1965 01:30:37 while you're just buying minks
1966 01:30:40 and drinking soda pop
1967 01:30:42 and cheating on me with that ape!
1968 01:30:51 You used to take care of me, Tammy.
1969 01:30:54 You stopped taking care of me.
1970 01:30:55 I don't wanna take care of you, Jim.
1971 01:30:58 I don't wanna be your mother.
1972 01:31:00 A woman needs a man in a relationship!
1973 01:31:03 -I am a man!-You're a boy.
1974 01:31:05 I built all of this.I built you an empire.
1975 01:31:07 You built you an empire.
1976 01:31:09 No man could ever give you enough.
1977 01:31:12 You're a bottomless pit.
1978 01:31:15 And you keep on asking me for more
1979 01:31:18 with that whiny, grating Betty Boop voice!
1980 01:31:23 (JIM GRUNTS WITH FRUSTRATION)
1981 01:31:26 (JIM BREATHING HEAVILY)
1982 01:31:39 I thought you liked Betty Boop.
1983 01:31:44 I'm sorry.
1984 01:31:46 I'm so sorry, Tammy.
1985 01:31:49 Me, too, Jim.
1986 01:31:51 (SNIFFLES) Um...
1987 01:31:55 There's another thing.The woman...
1988 01:32:00 I gave her money to stay quiet,but she didn't.
1989 01:32:05 And, um...
1990 01:32:06 And the money came from PTL donors.
1991 01:32:09 Jim.
1992 01:32:10 And Charles Shepard has the storyfrom The Observer.
1993 01:32:11 And he's gonna print it tomorrow.
1994 01:32:13 Oh, my God.(BREATHING SHAKILY)
1995 01:32:19 -JIM: I just... I know...-Jim. Oh, my God.
1996 01:32:24 I destroyed everything.
1997 01:32:27 Our life's work, Jim.
1998 01:32:29 I know.
1999 01:32:31 Tammy.
2000 01:32:34 Tam, my sweetheart,
2001 01:32:39 if anyone falls, it's gonna be me.
2002 01:32:42 You can let me be the manthat I was meant to be for you.
2003 01:32:46 You don't know anything.
2004 01:32:49 (KNOCKING ON DOOR)
2005 01:32:52 Oh, they're here.
2006 01:32:53 Who's that?
2007 01:32:54 It's all right.
2008 01:32:57 These are the menthat are gonna help me fix this.
2009 01:33:00 Oh, no, Jim.
2010 01:33:02 -No, no.-Reverend. Thank you so much.
2011 01:33:04 -Thank you so much for coming.-JERRY: Jim.
2012 01:33:06 Oh, it's love that carried me here today.
2013 01:33:09 JIM: (SIGHS) God bless you.JERRY: Tammy Faye.
2014 01:33:11 Jerry.
2015 01:33:13 JIM: Come in, please.Please come in. Welcome.
2016 01:33:15 Thank you.Thank you for coming, fellas.
2017 01:33:17 All right.
2018 01:33:18 Well, here we are.
2019 01:33:20 JERRY: We think it's bestthat we create a distance
2020 01:33:23 between you and the ministry.
2021 01:33:26 It'll only be for a couple of weeks.
2022 01:33:28 Then, gradually,we'll bring you back on the network
2023 01:33:31 after all this unpleasantnesssettles down.
2024 01:33:33 Jerry, you're a Baptist.You know, you're not a charismatic.
2025 01:33:37 And our audience won't like that.
2026 01:33:39 -Right, Jim?-Audience?
2027 01:33:41 I thought they were parishioners.
2028 01:33:43 They are.
2029 01:33:44 They're our partners.We call them partners.
2030 01:33:47 JERRY: Mm.
2031 01:33:48 20 million souls a day
2032 01:33:50 touched by The Word.Thanks to PTL.
2033 01:33:53 JIM AND TAMMY: Mm.
2034 01:33:55 JERRY: You go back thereright away, and...
2035 01:33:58 Well, bless your hearts.
2036 01:33:59 Look at the two of you right now,so very pitiful.
2037 01:34:03 They see you,and they'll change the channel.
2038 01:34:07 Jim,
2039 01:34:09 all those souls you won
2040 01:34:13 for Jesus...
2041 01:34:16 I'm here for you.
2042 01:34:18 JIM: Thank you, Reverend.JERRY: Mm.
2043 01:34:21 (HESITATES)
2044 01:34:24 Just make sureyou take care of our partners.
2045 01:34:28 That is the only thing that matters now.
2046 01:34:37 (NETWORK MUSIC PLAYING)
2047 01:34:40 ANNOUNCER: You're watching PTL,
2048 01:34:42 The Inspirational Network.
2049 01:34:47 Tammy and I are so very glad
2050 01:34:49 that we've been granted the opportunityto talk with you today,
2051 01:34:54 and, um...
2052 01:34:56 Say hello.
2053 01:34:57 Hello, everybody.
2054 01:34:59 And...
2055 01:35:01 we want to say to you
2056 01:35:04 that we are so very, very sorry.
2057 01:35:09 And to thank the peoplewho are standing with us all over,
2058 01:35:12 saying, "Jim, we do forgive you.
2059 01:35:15 "We forgive Jim and Tammyof all of their sins."
2060 01:35:19 And we're so thankfulthat God has forgiven us.
2061 01:35:23 We don't know what the future holds,but I believe, Tammy.
2062 01:35:27 'Cause the God I know is still God.
2063 01:35:30 I believe that the sun will shine again.
2064 01:35:33 Oh, I do, too, Jim.
2065 01:35:34 Do you wanna sing it?Can you do it?
2066 01:35:36 -I sure will.-All right.
2067 01:35:38 All right, Tammy Faye isgoing to sing a song for us.
2068 01:35:42 (MUSIC PLAYING)
2069 01:35:43 TAMMY: Well, maybe you're hurting,and you need this song today, too.
2070 01:35:47 So I'll sing it for both of us, okay?
2071 01:35:50 FEMALE CHORUS: (SINGING)The sun will shine again
2072 01:35:56 Now, if you are facing a mountain so high
2073 01:36:02 That just won't move away
2074 01:36:09 JERRY: We've heardabout your sinful behavior.
2075 01:36:13 If you tell us what we need to knowabout Jim Bakker,
2076 01:36:18 we can protect you.
2077 01:36:21 TAMMY: (SINGING)Oh-ho, listen, my brother
2078 01:36:24 We don't want them destitute.
2079 01:36:27 They're children of God.
2080 01:36:30 We want to make sure
2081 01:36:31 we don't leave them strandedin the desert.
2082 01:36:44 Write it down, what you make,
2083 01:36:46 what you need, every little thing.
2084 01:36:48 While you're in your time of healing,he wants you to be safe and provided for.
2085 01:36:54 I told him how fragile you are.
2086 01:36:56 He wants to help.He told me so himself.
2087 01:37:00 (JIM SIGHS)
2088 01:37:02 JIM: You wanna start us off, honey?
2089 01:37:06 -What should I write, Jim?-JIM: Start with everything.
2090 01:37:09 Start with what you need for clothes.
2091 01:37:10 What's your salary, Jim?
2092 01:37:12 JIM: One second.I'll try calling Jerry again.
2093 01:37:15 He hasn't returned any of my calls.
2094 01:37:18 TAMMY: (SINGING)The other side whose storm
2095 01:37:22 Is going to end
2096 01:37:26 Well, your midnight's almost over
2097 01:37:30 -(CAMERAS CLICKING)-"Jim's salary for a lifetime
2098 01:37:32 "at 300,000 per year.
2099 01:37:34 "Tammy's salary for a lifetimeat 100,000 a year.
2100 01:37:38 "Secretary for one year. Phone bill.
2101 01:37:40 "House on the lake. Security.Personal maid."
2102 01:37:44 (CAMERAS CONTINUE CLICKING)
2103 01:37:46 I don't see the repentance there.
2104 01:37:51 I see the greed.I see the self-centeredness.
2105 01:37:55 I see the avarice that brought them down.
2106 01:37:59 Jim, I have sat across the table
2107 01:38:02 from men who have told meabout your homosexual advances.
2108 01:38:07 And since then,I have learned of fiscal irregularities.
2109 01:38:12 It would be a disservice to God, Jim...
2110 01:38:14 (SIGHS) It's all over.
2111 01:38:15 ...and to the church at largeif I allowed you to come back.
2112 01:38:18 I've been had.
2113 01:38:21 How could you have trustedpeople like that? (SNIFFLES)
2114 01:38:25 You understandthat I can't allow you to stay here.
2115 01:38:30 Your home, and everything in it,belongs to the ministry.
2116 01:38:36 Your midnight's almost over.
2117 01:38:39 And thank God,the sun is going to shine again.
2118 01:38:43 Praise, praise in the name of the Lord.
2119 01:38:46 The charges being madeagainst you right now
2120 01:38:48 are, in effect, that you stole PTL blind.
2121 01:38:52 While PTL was sufferingthrough months after months
2122 01:38:55 of $2 million negative balances,
2123 01:38:58 you were paying yourself bonuses,
2124 01:39:00 -you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses.-No.
2125 01:39:01 I don't know if you ever havea positive balance in a ministry, Jim.
2126 01:39:05 I've never known anyoneto have a positive one.
2127 01:39:07 We're... We're always playing catch-up.
2128 01:39:10 NEWSCASTER 1:Jim Bakker went on trial
2129 01:39:11 on charges of fraud today.
2130 01:39:13 The prosecution called Bakker,
2131 01:39:14 "A man corruptedby love of money and luxury."
2132 01:39:15 The founder ofthe now-bankrupt PTL ministry
2133 01:39:16 swindled followers
2134 01:39:17 out of millions of dollarsto support a lavish lifestyle.
2135 01:39:20 NEWSCASTER 2: One couple showed up
2136 01:39:21 in Jim and Tammy Faye masks.
2137 01:39:22 NEWSCASTER 3:...couple million dollars in PTL cash
2138 01:39:24 for their personal use.
2139 01:39:25 TED: How much moneydid you earn last year?
2140 01:39:28 Salary, bonuses, and dividends,and royalties...
2141 01:39:32 No idea? You're starting...
2142 01:39:33 I don't have the exact figure.
2143 01:39:35 -TED: Not exactly.-I honestly, honest...
2144 01:39:37 I do not know how much I make.I never thought about it.
2145 01:39:39 -She don't. (CHUCKLES)-I really don't.
2146 01:39:42 NEWSCASTER:To raise desperately needed cash,
2147 01:39:44 PTL is auctioning offopulent personal items
2148 01:39:46 deposed Evangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker
2149 01:39:49 bought with church donations.
2150 01:39:50 They also brought new chargesof moral failure.
2151 01:39:52 NEWSCASTER 2: ...having sexwith Reverend Jim Bakker.
2152 01:39:54 NEWSCASTER 3: Jessica Hahn,
2153 01:39:55 Bakker personally directedthe payment of PTL hush money.
2154 01:39:58 We grieve for the impactall of this has had
2155 01:40:00 upon the entire Christian community.
2156 01:40:02 TED: As for the homosexual advancesgoing back to 1956,
2157 01:40:06 -you're saying that's a lie.-Yes. Yes.
2158 01:40:09 Yes, that's... that's... that's true.
2159 01:40:11 (WHISPERS) What are you saying?
2160 01:40:13 That's... That's a lie.
2161 01:40:14 Yes. Yes. And, you know,
2162 01:40:16 people need to know
2163 01:40:18 that God loves homosexuals.
2164 01:40:23 Preachers have to be awfully pious.
2165 01:40:25 And when they fall from grace,they fall harder.
2166 01:40:28 People laugh.
2167 01:40:29 Tammy, we have a bit of goopon our face.
2168 01:40:31 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)-You've taken her makeup off.
2169 01:40:32 -(JAY LENO EXCLAIMS)-(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
2170 01:40:34 I saw his wife.I heard the accusations,
2171 01:40:36 wife-swapping, homosexuality.
2172 01:40:38 Have you seen this (BLEEP) woman?
2173 01:40:40 I'd swap her for a can of soup.
2174 01:40:43 REPORTER: National news, special report.
2175 01:40:45 Jim Bakker was found guiltyon all 24 counts of wire and...
2176 01:40:49 -Guilty.-Guilty.
2177 01:40:51 He now faces up to a 120 years in prison
2178 01:40:54 and $5 million in fines.
2179 01:40:57 TAMMY: Ted, can I say something?
2180 01:40:58 TED: Sure.
2181 01:40:59 I just wanna say, remember,God loves you.
2182 01:41:03 I wanna say that, too.God loves you.
2183 01:41:07 -He really does. Bye-bye.-He really, really does.
2184 01:41:10 TED: All right. Thank you bothvery much for being with us.
2185 01:41:12 WOMAN: We're clear.
2186 01:41:13 (JIM SIGHS DEEPLY)
2187 01:41:28 (TAMMY CRYING)
2188 01:41:37 It's all right, honey. Don't cry.
2189 01:41:41 (PEOPLE CLAMORING)
2190 01:41:44 (CRYING) No.
2191 01:41:46 I didn't do anything. Please.
2192 01:41:48 (REPORTERS CLAMORING)
2193 01:41:51 TAMMY: I have a song for you.
2194 01:41:53 (SINGING) On Christ
2195 01:41:55 The solid rock I stand
2196 01:42:00 All other ground is sinking sand
2197 01:42:06 All other ground is sinking sand
2198 01:42:13 (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING)
2199 01:42:16 (CAMERAS CLICKING IN DISTANCE)
2200 01:42:22 TAMMY: God...
2201 01:42:24 I followed you ever sinceI was a little girl.
2202 01:42:30 I loved you.
2203 01:42:34 I served you.
2204 01:42:39 And I worked for you.
2205 01:42:44 God...
2206 01:42:48 where have you gone?
2207 01:42:51 -It's not over till it's over.-(CAMERAS CLICKING)
2208 01:42:54 (REPORTERS CLAMORING)
2209 01:43:24 (SIGHS)
2210 01:43:29 (DOOR OPENS)
2211 01:43:31 Hey. Sorry I'm late.
2212 01:43:33 TAMMY: Oh. (LAUGHS POLITELY)
2213 01:43:34 -Hi.-Hi.
2214 01:43:36 -Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy.-Nice to meet you. Stephen.
2215 01:43:38 All right. You need a water or anything?
2216 01:43:39 -Oh, no, I'm good.-Okay.
2217 01:43:41 My new headshot.
2218 01:43:42 (CHUCKLES) Yeah, all right. Nice.
2219 01:43:46 All right. So...
2220 01:43:48 I hear you're here to pitch me something.
2221 01:43:50 Oh. (LAUGHING)So I should... I'll... Yeah.
2222 01:43:53 So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen.
2223 01:43:55 And then I'd like to hearwhat you see me doing.
2224 01:43:59 Okay.
2225 01:44:00 Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets.
2226 01:44:04 I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny.
2227 01:44:06 It's a talk show but with puppets.(CHUCKLES)
2228 01:44:09 And it's for kids and also for adults.
2229 01:44:11 And it's a way for peopleto talk about their problems,
2230 01:44:16 but with puppets.
2231 01:44:17 (BOTH CHUCKLE)
2232 01:44:19 Okay.
2233 01:44:22 Okay, I have something elsefor you, Stephen.
2234 01:44:24 -Oh, okay, another one.-It's for teenagers.
2235 01:44:27 You know, the biggest problemthat they say is,
2236 01:44:30 "How can we get people to listen to us?"
2237 01:44:33 And I would really loveto give them that chance
2238 01:44:35 and, you know, go where they go.
2239 01:44:37 I'd love to go to the piercing parlorswith them,
2240 01:44:39 I'd love to go to the tattoo placeswith them, and...
2241 01:44:42 And you would call this show, what?
2242 01:44:44 -"Tammy's Terrific Teens."-Oh, yeah.
2243 01:44:46 I thought that would be,you know, a fun title.
2244 01:44:48 I was just curious.
2245 01:44:50 Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen?
2246 01:44:52 I mean, you're the expert.
2247 01:44:55 Well, have you reached outto any Christian networks or anything?
2248 01:45:01 Well, they won't have me.
2249 01:45:03 Okay. Well, what I've learnedfrom doing these shows,
2250 01:45:07 and I think you've learned as well, is,
2251 01:45:09 you know, it is dangerous
2252 01:45:11 to wanna be seen justfor the sake of it. You know?
2253 01:45:13 Well, I do love the camera, but...
2254 01:45:16 Why?
2255 01:45:17 Well, because it's a person.
2256 01:45:19 It's someone to talk to.
2257 01:45:20 It's... It's God's love through me.
2258 01:45:27 So what do you think, Stephen?
2259 01:45:28 You know, would you like to do a show?
2260 01:45:31 (SIGHS) I don't know, Tammy.
2261 01:45:33 I just don't thinkit's a good fit for us right now.
2262 01:45:36 Okay?
2263 01:45:39 Well, well, I... I...
2264 01:45:43 -I really appreciate...-Thank you for coming in.
2265 01:45:45 -Thank you.-Thanks for coming through.
2266 01:45:46 We'll take careof your parking validation.
2267 01:45:48 -Thank you.-TAMMY: Okay.
2268 01:45:51 You have a good one.
2269 01:45:52 (TAMMY CHUCKLES)
2270 01:45:55 -Bye.-Bye.
2271 01:45:58 TAMMY: Oops.
2272 01:46:16 (BOYS LAUGHING)
2273 01:46:18 BOY 1: Oh, man.
2274 01:46:21 BOY 2: What'd she do to her face?
2275 01:46:23 (BOYS LAUGHING)
2276 01:46:25 BOY 1: I told you she lived here.What a freak.
2277 01:46:28 (LAUGHTER CONTINUES)
2278 01:46:33 -Oh, man.-Hi.
2279 01:46:35 BOY 2: Oh, shit.She's comin' over here.
2280 01:46:37 -You guys just hangin' out?-BOY 2: Yeah.
2281 01:46:41 So, you can talk about me.That's all right.
2282 01:46:45 But, you know,you gotta shake my hand,
2283 01:46:47 and you gotta say hi first.
2284 01:46:51 -Hi.-Hi, nice to meet ya.
2285 01:46:52 I'm Tammy. What's your name?
2286 01:46:53 -Um, Max.-Hi.
2287 01:46:55 But, you know, we're not strangers.
2288 01:46:57 I live right there. We're neighbors.
2289 01:47:00 Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got.
2290 01:47:03 Who would like a picture?
2291 01:47:09 (TV AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2292 01:47:10 Jolene, I cannot believethat you have eaten
2293 01:47:12 almost an entire jar of peanut butter.
2294 01:47:14 JOLENE: Well, I'm sorry, Susanne.
2295 01:47:15 I happen to be eating for two.
2296 01:47:17 Don't beg.
2297 01:47:18 -(DOG WHINING)-(PHONE RINGING)
2298 01:47:20 Okay, you're being so good.
2299 01:47:21 SUSANNE: I say, have at it.
2300 01:47:23 JOLENE: You know, Susanne,since you're having
2301 01:47:25 so much trouble collectingmoney for your benefit,
2302 01:47:26 I might be able to help you out.
2303 01:47:28 -SUSANNE: You, how?-(PHONE CLICKS)
2304 01:47:30 TAMMY: God bless you.You've reached Tammy.
2305 01:47:31 Leave me a message.
2306 01:47:33 (PHONE BEEPS)
2307 01:47:35 Hello, Mrs. Bakker.This is Linda Thomas
2308 01:47:37 from Oral Roberts School of Divinity.
2309 01:47:39 You probably don't rememberbut I volunteered at PTL.
2310 01:47:42 You were always so nice to me.
2311 01:47:44 Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing
2312 01:47:46 at this year's festivalof Praise and Redemption.
2313 01:47:48 I think you'd be a wonderfuladdition to our program.
2314 01:47:51 We'll check back with youto find out if you're interested.
2315 01:47:53 Thanks very much.
2316 01:47:55 (PHONE CLICKS)
2317 01:47:56 (PHONE BEEPS)
2318 01:48:14 (SIGHS DEEPLY)
2319 01:48:26 -JIM: Hi.-(CHUCKLES) Hi.
2320 01:48:43 So, what's new? (CHUCKLING)
2321 01:48:44 Oh. I don't know.
2322 01:48:49 I got an invitationfrom Oral Roberts to sing.
2323 01:48:52 -Wow.-Yeah.
2324 01:48:54 That's wonderful.
2325 01:48:56 -I'm not gonna do it though.-You should.
2326 01:48:57 No, I haven't been in church for years.
2327 01:48:59 Well, that's where you belong.
2328 01:49:01 No, I don't belong with them.
2329 01:49:02 They're gonna laugh.(CHUCKLES DRYLY)
2330 01:49:04 I'm not gonna go.
2331 01:49:05 It's my fault you feel that way.
2332 01:49:07 I'm sorry for that.
2333 01:49:10 All of it.
2334 01:49:13 I pray for you, Jim.
2335 01:49:15 And I pray that God will use you again.
2336 01:49:20 Yes.
2337 01:49:26 I appreciate you signingthe divorce papers, Jim.
2338 01:49:28 I didn't want to, Tam.
2339 01:49:30 I know.
2340 01:49:33 But, you know, we've just beenthrough too much together
2341 01:49:36 and, you know,there's been too many hurts
2342 01:49:39 that have happened over the years.
2343 01:49:42 And that poor girl, Jim.
2344 01:49:43 I know, I know. I know.
2345 01:49:46 I'm ashamed of that.
2346 01:49:49 I've been getting some real meand God time in here
2347 01:49:53 and everything looks very, very different
2348 01:49:54 when you're looking at itfrom the bottom up.
2349 01:49:56 -Well, yeah.-Yeah.
2350 01:49:58 And I've just been thinking,
2351 01:50:00 were we preaching
2352 01:50:02 that God doesn't love you if you're poor?
2353 01:50:07 Well, you know that I grew up poor.
2354 01:50:11 It's not what you have in stuff,
2355 01:50:13 it's the people that count.
2356 01:50:16 -Amen.-Amen.
2357 01:50:18 (BOTH CHUCKLE)
2358 01:50:31 (GRUNTS)
2359 01:50:34 RACHEL: Tammy.
2360 01:50:37 Mom?
2361 01:50:41 (SOFT ORGAN MUSIC PLAYING)
2362 01:50:43 PASTOR: "We thereforewere buried with him
2363 01:50:46 "through baptism into death.
2364 01:50:48 "In order that,
2365 01:50:49 "just as Christ was raised from the dead
2366 01:50:51 "through the glory of the Father,
2367 01:50:54 "we too may walk in newness of life."
2368 01:51:00 MAN: Such a good service.
2369 01:51:02 FRED: Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'.
2370 01:51:05 There you are.
2371 01:51:08 Aren't you gonna come in,have somethin' to eat?
2372 01:51:10 I don't belong in there with them.
2373 01:51:13 Yeah.
2374 01:51:16 One good thing about your mumkicking the bucket is
2375 01:51:18 I never have to go to church again.
2376 01:51:20 (TAMMY CHUCKLING)
2377 01:51:22 No, I shouldn't laugh at that.
2378 01:51:24 (SNIFFLES)
2379 01:51:26 -Oh, I did something terrible.-Oh?
2380 01:51:30 Oh. (CHUCKLES)
2381 01:51:32 -(WHISPERS) You're forgiven.-(CHUCKLES, SNIFFLES)
2382 01:51:35 Ooh. Wow, she really was blind,wasn't she?
2383 01:51:38 Mm-hmm.
2384 01:51:41 I got somethin' for ya.
2385 01:51:44 You recognize this?
2386 01:51:49 I thought Falwell took everything.
2387 01:51:51 She hid this.
2388 01:51:52 She stole it.
2389 01:51:54 Well, she said she'd be damned
2390 01:51:56 if she was gonna hand overthis precious thing
2391 01:51:58 her daughterworked so hard for
2392 01:52:00 -to the fat Baptist.-(LAUGHING)
2393 01:52:09 (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING)
2394 01:52:30 WOMAN: (ON PA)We're opening the house now, Ms. Bakker.
2395 01:52:32 People are taking their seats.
2396 01:52:39 (IN DEEPER VOICE)Well, hello there, Tammy.
2397 01:52:41 (CHUCKLES)
2398 01:52:43 (IN NORMAL VOICE) Hi, there.
2399 01:52:47 I'm scared.
2400 01:52:56 Jesus, come in to my heart,and forgive me my sins.
2401 01:53:02 I know I cared about thingsthat I shouldn't have.
2402 01:53:06 And I know I got lost...
2403 01:53:10 and I forgot who you are to me...
2404 01:53:17 but that's done now.
2405 01:53:20 Yeah, I won't go forward
2406 01:53:22 looking in the rearview mirror of my life.
2407 01:53:27 MAN: (ON PA)On stage in 10 minutes.
2408 01:53:32 (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)
2409 01:53:42 (GRUNTS SOFTLY)
2410 01:53:47 Thank you.
2411 01:53:50 Here, this is for the piano player.
2412 01:53:51 Okay.
2413 01:53:54 (MUFFLED AUDIENCE CHATTERING)
2414 01:54:09 ANNOUNCER:Ladies and gentlemen...
2415 01:54:10 (SIGHS)
2416 01:54:11 ...please welcome tonight's special guest,
2417 01:54:15 Tammy Faye.
2418 01:54:17 -(CLEARS THROAT)-(APPLAUSE)
2419 01:54:22 (CHUCKLING NERVOUSLY)
2420 01:54:25 TAMMY: Aw.
2421 01:54:27 Thank you. Thank you so much.(CHUCKLES LIGHTLY)
2422 01:54:33 I am genuinely, I am so happy
2423 01:54:36 to be back where I once belonged.
2424 01:54:43 This morning when I wasin need of some comfort,
2425 01:54:48 I turned to my favorite scripture,
2426 01:54:51 Psalms 91.
2427 01:54:55 "He that dwelleth in the secret place
2428 01:54:58 "of the most high
2429 01:55:02 "shall abide under the shadowof the Almighty."
2430 01:55:06 And this is my favorite part. (CHUCKLES)
2431 01:55:10 (CHUCKLES, SNIFFLES)
2432 01:55:16 (VOICE BREAKING)"He shall cover thee with His feathers
2433 01:55:20 "and under His wings
2434 01:55:23 "shalt thou trust."
2435 01:55:28 (CHUCKLES AND SNIFFLES)
2436 01:55:29 Well, I haven't had a concertin almost a decade
2437 01:55:34 and I am a little nervous.(CHUCKLES DRYLY)
2438 01:55:38 But I'll do my best
2439 01:55:40 to deliver Him to you folks tonight. Okay?
2440 01:55:48 (PIANO PLAYS)
2441 01:55:51 (SINGING) Mine eyes
2442 01:55:54 Have seen the glory
2443 01:55:58 Of the coming of the Lord
2444 01:56:03 He is trampling out the vintage
2445 01:56:07 Where the grapes of wrath are stored
2446 01:56:13 He hath loosed
2447 01:56:16 The fateful lightning
2448 01:56:20 Of His terrible, swift sword
2449 01:56:27 His truth is marching on
2450 01:56:36 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2451 01:56:43 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2452 01:56:50 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2453 01:56:57 His truth is marching on
2454 01:57:04 -(CHOIR VOCALIZING)-I have read His fiery gospel
2455 01:57:08 Writ in burnished rows of steel
2456 01:57:11 "As ye deal with my condemners
2457 01:57:15 "So with you my grace shall deal"
2458 01:57:18 Let the Hero, born of woman
2459 01:57:22 Crush the serpent with his heel
2460 01:57:25 Since God is marching on
2461 01:57:33 Come on, everybody!Feel his miracle!
2462 01:57:37 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2463 01:57:44 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2464 01:57:51 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2465 01:57:57 His truth is marching on
2466 01:58:04 Oh, how thankful I am
2467 01:58:07 for the amazing grace of God.
2468 01:58:10 Because without that beautiful grace,
2469 01:58:13 I wouldn't even be here today.
2470 01:58:16 That grace that reached down and said,
2471 01:58:18 "Tammy Faye, I love you.
2472 01:58:22 "And I love you just the way you are."
2473 01:58:25 You know God's grace is sufficient enoughfor you today, too.
2474 01:58:29 And He loves you just the way you are!
2475 01:58:33 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2476 01:58:40 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2477 01:58:48 Glory, glory, hallelujah
2478 01:58:54 His truth is marching on
2479 01:59:01 Our God is
2480 01:59:06 Marching
2481 01:59:09 On
2482 01:59:18 Thank you, Lord,for the United States of America.
2483 01:59:22 We thank you, Lord,
2484 01:59:23 that we live in this wonderful country.
2485 01:59:27 God bless America. Hallelujah.
2486 01:59:32 Oh, yeah.
2487 01:59:37 (UPBEAT GOSPEL MUSIC PLAYING)
2488 02:00:26 It's not over till it's over.
2489 02:00:32 (SOFT GOSPEL MUSIC PLAYING)